81yotalove

I just did the job it wasn't that hard, did end up pulling the pan to get the guide pieces out, and painted while it was out. I used engnbldr metal backed kit and didn't think twice on using it by how many people use his parts on here. And I agree with 907yota the job isn't that hard and even if I do the job again in maybe five years that's still only 150 dollars for two on his kits with shipping instead of oem and I priced it out and is somewhere around 350 for oem.

pruney81

I know there is only one chain, thanks though, but I will most likely be replacing the head gasket and t-chain at once. I just want to tighten up the top end of my 99K mile 22re..

9o7yota

99k? i bought my truck at 102k. The timing guide went out around 200-220k. Dont worry about your guides just yet. The HG wont be an issue until later on as well. just adjust your valves if necessary... i cant see you needing anything else done man..seriously... its too early on that engine is just getting broken in.

874runnersr5

good thing is has a owner like you! haha, i wish my truck hg/tchain was done at every 100k

pruney81

I've had a few 22re's with 200K plus miles and I know what it takes to make a 22re run forever...it's better to fix a timing chain before it starts wearing into the timing cover than after

AZ89LONGBED

iTrader: (3)

I'll give a big (((X2))) for Engnbldr. Ted knows his stuff, and his advising/shipping/warranty/etc. end of his business impressed me enough that I had to order one of his RV heads & 268 cams. I would imagine he would stand behind any other parts he offers as well. Can't go wrong with EB, if you do, they will make it right.

TOYOTA 1

im pretty sure osk is oem. and the osk kit is only $60 and its better than tiawaneese.

so if the price is about the same wouldnt you go with the japan made oem stuff?

@ the op, why dont you try a cloyes t set. its only 50. or you cold just go to lce and get something over kill.

1. o.s.k - $60
2. djrock- $46
3. cloyes- $50
4. lce - $100

you have commitment issues lol jk.

pull the trigger on one my friend!

flyingbrass

Here's an older thread where Ted elaborates on the parts used in his kits: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=211732

I don't think miles alone are a good gauge of guide wear. For example, my engine only had 116K on it, but 23 years of regular use. That's a lot of starts. Take a look at my guides here.

flyingbrass

They can, but it doesn't seem to be common. I don't remember if it was here or another forum, but a guy posted a picture of his steel backed guide broken off at the top (same place our plastic guides broke). I think his came from DOA, not that it matters.

In Ted's instructions he says to adjust the driver's side guide so there is clearance or at most only very light contact between it and the chain.

Ezrider_92356

iv had my motor apart for timing chain guides twice now with 270k on the clock now, first time i replaced with oe this time i went with the engine builder kit, i was not all that impressed with the timing cover the two furthest forward bolt holes did not seem to line up perfectly to the oil pan but it worked fine and hey its way cheaper than any other cover i could find anywhere short of a junk yard. the guide seemed much stouter than the oe part the other components seemed of equal quality to oe. i doubt ill ever have another broken timing guide. both the stock and stock replacement guide seemed to go at or around 100k miles. i have about 10k miles on the eb timing components and all is good so far.

pruney81

That was a pretty good debate last night. Given the fact that engnbldr provides the OSK tensioner and you can't beat the price when the time comes I will probably just go with his kit.

mcm375

I also have the engnbldr kit on my rebuilt motor. I had no problems with it aside from low-grade casting aesthetics on the cover itself, which I'm not particularly concerned about.

Link in my sig.

tim a.

I used eb's kit about 4 years ago on a valve job and had a tensioner failure.He made it right and apparently now uses osk tensioners in his kit.When I did my rebuild I used an osk kit from ebay ($40) and doa guides.The doa guides are nothing more than chopped up 20r guides made to fit(made by melling).Wish I had saved that hundred bucks.As far as rock timing covers,they do look a little rough,but they are servicable.Enginequest is the brand I bought for my rebuild.They look oem,but dont come with oil pump dowels.I couldnt get mine out of the rock cover and you cant buy them separartly,but the dowel under the cam cap is the same.Live and learn.

pruney81

so would you guy's reccommend getting his EB's timing cover or no?

Jay351

why not?

Mine works perfectly fine. Every hole and thread was bang on.

pruney81

It seems some people were complaining about the quality and certain holes not lining up? Jay351, yours was fine though?

874runnersr5

mine was spot on minus one... i still havent fixed it and it drippbles out a bit of coolant once and a while.. oh well

pruney81

you're really losing coolant out of it?

Jay351

Yes, everything lined up perfect. Before I installed the timing cover I threaded in every single bolt to make sure they all worked.

The install went smooth.

It seems every so often somebody has a problem rock timing cover..

pruney81

If there is no significant grooves in the stock cover then I can most likely reuse it right?