Ebay find: High Output 3vze
12-08-2007, 04:46 PM
#21
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 1,475
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
To do something like that requires some pretty serious investment in money, and the person would have to have some intimate knowledge of engines. MOst people in here are too lazy to do something that extreme and instead just preach that you should do a 3.4 swap instead. Most people in here want 3vze's with near or about 5vzfe (3.4) power. Now a days anyone who plans on trying to do that with their 3vze will also get chastised by the guys who swapped to 3.4's telling you that you are making a mistake.
12-08-2007, 09:31 PM
#24
Registered User
I have done 4 rebuilds on 390 FE Ford engines, dyno'd one of them. The cam in my 390 with a .030 overbore was 265* intake/275* exhaust duration and .510" lift at the intake valves and .530" exhaust. It didn't even make quite 400 hp. It was only 10.5:1 cr, but I'm sorry, his math doesn't quite add up without forced induction.
12-08-2007, 09:39 PM
#25
Registered User
2 things here:
1. He provides no proof. No proof-no $$$ from me at least. I want sources and proof it makes that much power and the components in it.
2. That engine is dirty and disgusting looking. If I was gonna spend the time my engine would surely look better than that. That thing aint even been washed..
1. He provides no proof. No proof-no $$$ from me at least. I want sources and proof it makes that much power and the components in it.
2. That engine is dirty and disgusting looking. If I was gonna spend the time my engine would surely look better than that. That thing aint even been washed..
12-08-2007, 10:19 PM
#26
Contributing Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 9,055
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
5 Posts
I will agree there. They way the engine is stored, does not make me belive it is making 400hp. If it truly is and wasnt owned by a complete ****head then it shouldnt be resing on a damn tire.. I wouldnt buy it.
But I think this thread is turning into "is it even possible"
But I think this thread is turning into "is it even possible"
12-08-2007, 10:40 PM
#28
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NoPhx
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well look at the spec's, assuming they are true. High compression pistons with an 11.5 to 1 ratio - makes you almost wonder if you could burn diesel with the thing it's got such a high compression ratio. You'd probably need 94 octane PLUS octane boost. Then it's got high duration camshafts which probably make it idle so rough you probably gotta keep your idle up at 1500 RPM's. Then he says he bored it .100 over. That's a decent "chunk" of a bore. It looks like it has NWOR headers - (ball and socket design right?).
I'd love to see if this engine is indeed "true," and I'd also be interested in what other parts or things have been done to handle that high of a compression ratio.
I'd love to see if this engine is indeed "true," and I'd also be interested in what other parts or things have been done to handle that high of a compression ratio.
You need at least 15:1 to ignite diesel, most diesels nowadays are between 16-18:1 and can go to 20:1
High performance gas motors are running about 12:1 for street applications.
11.5:1 isn't really to bad anyway, though might need 91 octane, not 94 and octane booster.
I see the motor pushing about 200-225, at about 10.5:1 running a mild cam, larger piston bore, and some port&polish and port balancing with nice flowing headers, with the Jet chip installed in the ecu.
12-08-2007, 11:13 PM
#29
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 1,475
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
You need at least 15:1 to ignite diesel, most diesels nowadays are between 16-18:1 and can go to 20:1
High performance gas motors are running about 12:1 for street applications.
11.5:1 isn't really to bad anyway, though might need 91 octane, not 94 and octane booster.
I see the motor pushing about 200-225, at about 10.5:1 running a mild cam, larger piston bore, and some port&polish and port balancing with nice flowing headers, with the Jet chip installed in the ecu.
High performance gas motors are running about 12:1 for street applications.
11.5:1 isn't really to bad anyway, though might need 91 octane, not 94 and octane booster.
I see the motor pushing about 200-225, at about 10.5:1 running a mild cam, larger piston bore, and some port&polish and port balancing with nice flowing headers, with the Jet chip installed in the ecu.
My comments about it being able to burn diesel were tongue in cheek.
He sure doesn't seem to want very much $$$ for that engine. Must either not have faith in it, or could be a bunch of BS?
12-09-2007, 07:32 AM
#31
Contributing Member
12-09-2007, 07:49 AM
#32
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: neverland,pa
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i dunno those heads look pretty clean. and whats the big deal about not painting the block and puttin' it on a tire, when i bought my engine it came on a tire on a pallet. i'd say 300 somethin' is possible, it would be pretty cool if he had a dyno on there though.
12-09-2007, 09:30 AM
#33
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: cedar springs mi/lima oh
Posts: 206
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i know a guy that has a 600ish hp small block that looks haggared just sittin on his garage floor with a chunk of wood under it holding it up. of course he builds motors too...
12-09-2007, 04:32 PM
#34
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: neverland,pa
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i wish anybody had a dyno on a moded 3vze. i'm gonna do a dyno after it's been runnin' for a little while and one after i do the heads and whatnot. just to have some type of fact on a moded 3vze
12-10-2007, 05:12 AM
#38
Registered User
You need at least 15:1 to ignite diesel, most diesels nowadays are between 16-18:1 and can go to 20:1
High performance gas motors are running about 12:1 for street applications.
11.5:1 isn't really to bad anyway, though might need 91 octane, not 94 and octane booster.
I see the motor pushing about 200-225, at about 10.5:1 running a mild cam, larger piston bore, and some port&polish and port balancing with nice flowing headers, with the Jet chip installed in the ecu.
High performance gas motors are running about 12:1 for street applications.
11.5:1 isn't really to bad anyway, though might need 91 octane, not 94 and octane booster.
I see the motor pushing about 200-225, at about 10.5:1 running a mild cam, larger piston bore, and some port&polish and port balancing with nice flowing headers, with the Jet chip installed in the ecu.
And who ever said we want to match the power of a 3.4? man 3.4's are slow, i have one, now a boosted 3.4... thats another story...
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
