adding on to a suspension lift?

8yota9 · 03-03-2007, 04:49 PM

is it posible to add on to an existing lift with out getting a whole ne one? i have a 4" trailmaster lift in my 89 4x4 and would like another 2" of lift. trying not to spend to much cash on it so the cheaper the beter. but dont wanto sacrifice for quality . how can i acomplish this. also i dont really care for body lifts like it all in the suspension if posible.
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ovrrdrive · 03-03-2007, 05:01 PM

BJ spacer in the front, change to 4" over leafs in the back and add a 2" block...

Of course then you may need longer shocks too.

8yota9 · 03-03-2007, 05:22 PM

lte leafs are a lota cash tho right

ovrrdrive · 03-03-2007, 05:30 PM

Superlift springs aren't too bad... They sell for about $129 each from summit racing + shipping. They supposedly ride pretty harsh though but I don't know first hand yet.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

I just scored a pair that a guy bought and never used for $125 though. I'd say I got a smoking deal...

8yota9 · 03-03-2007, 05:35 PM

o got blocks in the reari think 4" blocks if i put a 6" block in the baxk and got sum 2" bj spacers would that work ?i also dont want it to be unsafe ya no lol

8yota9 · 03-03-2007, 05:37 PM

one of the reasons i want it higher is sum beat kid in a ford thinks his rig is better cuz its higher tho i smoked him off road he got stuck and i threw her in 4lo an pulled right out haha i hate ford

1989toy4wd · 03-03-2007, 05:46 PM

I personally wouldnt want to put 6in blocks in the back, in fact I have blocks and i am going to remove them asap!!! They are somewhat dangerous. If you got him out of being stuck, with less lift, then why are you mad, that shows that your truck is better than his with less lift!!

ovrrdrive · 03-03-2007, 06:24 PM

If you go offroad at all don't do a 6" block.

Leave the 4" block and do either an AAL or a longer shackle. Just remember that you cut the length of the extended shackle in half to figure lift. IE, if the shackle is 3" longer expect 1.5" of lift.

AxleIke · 03-03-2007, 09:55 PM

This should be sweet.

Post up some pics when you get it done.

Good luck on the blocks.

8yota9 · 03-04-2007, 07:33 AM

what if i got a stack of leavs from another toyota pickup same year nd ÅÅÅÅ and just add them to the existing stack? posible or compleatly stupid

dmatter · 03-04-2007, 07:47 AM

Keep it low! Why would you want a High cog? The Higher the Truck sits the Easier it will roll Over and it Wont fit under Tree Branches etc.

Dax

bruzer · 03-04-2007, 07:51 AM

STay away from lift blocks all together, they just create axle wrap. Which is something that most leaf sprunf rears have anyways, but why make it worse.

91ToyTrck · 03-04-2007, 03:40 PM

I know you say you don't want to spend a lot of money, but I would wait and save up to do the new springs in the rear. I would definately look into removing those blocks as soon as possible. I would never run anything more than maybe a 1" block in the rear. I really wouldn't ever run them, but never over 1" at the most. You could always think about looking into selling your IFS stuff and adding a SFA.

Just a Thaught

drguitarum2005 · 03-04-2007, 03:42 PM

im shocked that someone actually have 4" blocks. thats possibly the worst idea as far as lift is concerned (/me waits for other funny suggestions like cinderblocks, 4x4's etc). get rid of those ASAP and get big lift springs and longer shackles.

Red3.slow · 03-04-2007, 03:43 PM

what about a 2in body lift.

91ToyTrck · 03-04-2007, 04:24 PM

now there is a very good idea. I think that would save a lot of time and money, but honestly it's still a good idea to get rid of the blocks no matter what your decision may be for more lift.

drguitarum2005 · 03-04-2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91ToyTrck

now there is a very good idea. I think that would save a lot of time and money, but honestly it's still a good idea to get rid of the blocks no matter what your decision may be for more lift.

jriebe · 03-04-2007, 06:18 PM

put in longer springs, stay away from cheapo blocks...that is for mall cruisers not real rigs.

chevy springs? rears in the front? just don't use cheapo quick fixes.

Jon

ovrrdrive · 03-04-2007, 06:22 PM

There are millions of trucks on the road that have rear blocks in them and they're fine.

Are springs better?

Of course they are, but blocks will do until you get the money for new springs. Everything in moderation though... Be prepared for major suspension failures if you start stacking blocks.

I think if you follow the info in the faq at pirate 4x4 you can do the 63" Chevy's and gain another 3 inches. That would be a pretty decent way to do what you want but you'll need to do some welding.

jriebe · 03-04-2007, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovrrdrive

There are millions of trucks on the road that have rear blocks in them and they're fine.

Are springs better?

Of course they are, but blocks will do until you get the money for new springs. Everything in moderation though... Be prepared for major suspension failures if you start stacking blocks.

I think if you follow the info in the faq at pirate 4x4 you can do the 63" Chevy's and gain another 3 inches. That would be a pretty decent way to do what you want but you'll need to do some welding.

That's right..."on the road." I have seen too many rigs snap long ass u-bolts because they are using lift blocks. as far as I am concerned lift blocks are the most dangerous quick fix this side of using duct tape to patch a tire. (haven't seen that but bet it would be bad...)

While i agree that doing the chevy swap requires a bit more fab work, it is well worth the time.

but if you are worried about trying to show someone up versus actual performance, just do the blocks...

Hope this helps...

Jon

ShortyzKustomz · 03-04-2007, 06:41 PM

It could be worse. Theres the guy on cardomain with the Yota with double stacked blocks for 5 inches lol

03-03-2007, 05:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
ovrrdrive Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,775	BJ spacer in the front, change to 4" over leafs in the back and add a 2" block... Of course then you may need longer shocks too. __________________ '95 xcab - SOLD '03 4runner V8 SR5 completely stock

03-03-2007, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
ovrrdrive Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,775	Superlift springs aren't too bad... They sell for about $129 each from summit racing + shipping. They supposedly ride pretty harsh though but I don't know first hand yet. http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku I just scored a pair that a guy bought and never used for $125 though. I'd say I got a smoking deal... __________________ '95 xcab - SOLD '03 4runner V8 SR5 completely stock

03-03-2007, 05:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beaumont, Tx Posts: 949	I personally wouldnt want to put 6in blocks in the back, in fact I have blocks and i am going to remove them asap!!! They are somewhat dangerous. If you got him out of being stuck, with less lift, then why are you mad, that shows that your truck is better than his with less lift!! __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, 5-in SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers, Marlin sliders, Ramsey Patriot 9500 winch with synthetic line, Hi-angle D/S F&R, diff breathers, rebuilt tranny, 22RE bored .20 over completely rebuilt (it feels great to not have to buy 2 cases of oil a month!!), whole truck built in memory of my dad (RIP 6-26-08) Daily driver & tow vehicle: 02 Dodge 2500 Diesel, 5-speed, 4wd, quad cab, longbed, 128k miles

03-03-2007, 06:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
ovrrdrive Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,775	If you go offroad at all don't do a 6" block. Leave the 4" block and do either an AAL or a longer shackle. Just remember that you cut the length of the extended shackle in half to figure lift. IE, if the shackle is 3" longer expect 1.5" of lift. __________________ '95 xcab - SOLD '03 4runner V8 SR5 completely stock

03-03-2007, 09:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,887	This should be sweet. Post up some pics when you get it done. Good luck on the blocks. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

03-03-2007, 05:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
8yota9 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North NJ Posts: 189	lte leafs are a lota cash tho right

03-03-2007, 05:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
8yota9 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North NJ Posts: 189	o got blocks in the reari think 4" blocks if i put a 6" block in the baxk and got sum 2" bj spacers would that work ?i also dont want it to be unsafe ya no lol

03-03-2007, 05:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
8yota9 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North NJ Posts: 189	one of the reasons i want it higher is sum beat kid in a ford thinks his rig is better cuz its higher tho i smoked him off road he got stuck and i threw her in 4lo an pulled right out haha i hate ford

03-04-2007, 07:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
8yota9 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North NJ Posts: 189	what if i got a stack of leavs from another toyota pickup same year nd ÅÅÅÅ and just add them to the existing stack? posible or compleatly stupid

03-04-2007, 07:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
dmatter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 163	Keep it low! Why would you want a High cog? The Higher the Truck sits the Easier it will roll Over and it Wont fit under Tree Branches etc. Dax __________________ 2005 Tacoma 4x4 15,000 Miles 1998 Camry 101,000 Miles 1988 4Runner 284,000 Miles

03-04-2007, 07:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
bruzer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Some where in Utah Posts: 299	STay away from lift blocks all together, they just create axle wrap. Which is something that most leaf sprunf rears have anyways, but why make it worse. __________________ 92 4 Runner, locked, swaped and linked. www.utah4x4club.com www.U4WDA.org

03-04-2007, 03:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
91ToyTrck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 574	I know you say you don't want to spend a lot of money, but I would wait and save up to do the new springs in the rear. I would definately look into removing those blocks as soon as possible. I would never run anything more than maybe a 1" block in the rear. I really wouldn't ever run them, but never over 1" at the most. You could always think about looking into selling your IFS stuff and adding a SFA. Just a Thaught

03-04-2007, 03:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
drguitarum2005 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston (home), Atlanta (school), Cincinnati (work) Posts: 2,235	im shocked that someone actually have 4" blocks. thats possibly the worst idea as far as lift is concerned (/me waits for other funny suggestions like cinderblocks, 4x4's etc). get rid of those ASAP and get big lift springs and longer shackles. __________________ -David 2000 Taco TRD Access Cab v6 \| 5spd \| 33" BFG A/Ts \| 33" PC Mud Terrains \| OME 882's \| Bilstein HD struts front \| Rancho shocks rear \| Chevy 63" leaf spring swap \| Custom sliders \| Custom front bumper \|3" BL \| U-Bolt flip \| Flowmaster exhaust \| Kenwood Speakers \| Grey Wire Mod \| Aux. Reverse Lights \| Deckplate Mod \| Lots of lights Pictures

03-04-2007, 03:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Red3.slow Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Little Rock, Ar Posts: 1,181	what about a 2in body lift. __________________ -Miles -Firefighter/EMT T.E.A Taxed Enough Already

03-04-2007, 04:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
91ToyTrck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 574	now there is a very good idea. I think that would save a lot of time and money, but honestly it's still a good idea to get rid of the blocks no matter what your decision may be for more lift.

03-04-2007, 06:41 PM	#21 (permalink)
ShortyzKustomz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond Va. Posts: 348	It could be worse. Theres the guy on cardomain with the Yota with double stacked blocks for 5 inches lol __________________ 1994 Toyota Bagged on 17s and CLEAN (Daily) 1993 Honda Civic B18 swap, slammed and shaved (TRADED) 1991 Nissan Bagged, Shaved everything (SOLD) 1986 Toyota 4wd 3 inch BL 32x11.50s (SOLD)

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03-04-2007, 06:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
jriebe Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 136	put in longer springs, stay away from cheapo blocks...that is for mall cruisers not real rigs. chevy springs? rears in the front? just don't use cheapo quick fixes. Jon

03-04-2007, 06:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
ovrrdrive Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,775	There are millions of trucks on the road that have rear blocks in them and they're fine. Are springs better? Of course they are, but blocks will do until you get the money for new springs. Everything in moderation though... Be prepared for major suspension failures if you start stacking blocks. I think if you follow the info in the faq at pirate 4x4 you can do the 63" Chevy's and gain another 3 inches. That would be a pretty decent way to do what you want but you'll need to do some welding. __________________ '95 xcab - SOLD '03 4runner V8 SR5 completely stock

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