stock rear springs up front and chevys rear

darth brian · 02-09-2006, 05:45 PM

how much lift do they give? with an allpro front hanger kit and their long shackles. how much total lift do i get out of going this route?

also, when putting chevy rear springs in the rear: what years do i want, 4x4 or 2wd. and after the relocation of the front hanger and rear shackle, once again, how much lift height is acheived. thanks

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RED 85 · 02-09-2006, 08:01 PM

go hear for info on chevy
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=20665

And here for front spring up front

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

And here for a whole lot more

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...8&page=1&pp=25

darth brian · 02-12-2006, 07:31 PM

has anybody done this? what are the results? do you like it? any pics?

fourwd1 · 02-13-2006, 09:51 AM

Have you read the FAQs provided to you above ??
There are plenty of pics in those.

I don't have any pics of my Chevy swap or rears up front here at work, but here's a so-so shot of them at work.

darth brian · 02-13-2006, 08:45 PM

yea i read them. looks interesting. i want to do it but i want an overall 4" of lift with out doing a body lift. i dont know if those springs will give me that much. the faq says 2-3 but i wonder if longer shackles would lift it more?

4Crawler · 02-13-2006, 08:58 PM

Longer shackles will give lift:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shackles.shtml#FAQ4

getitdone · 02-15-2006, 10:35 PM

Not to hijack, but do you have to get crossover steering to run rears up front? Seeing as how it moves the axle 2 inches forward.

darth brian · 02-15-2006, 10:46 PM

no. but if you ever flex it all the way your going to snap your steering arm. you can do it just dont flex it. which makes it a waste of time. not sure about what happens about the axle moving forward. shouldnt be that big of deal. main thing is the arms breaking.

darth brian · 02-15-2006, 10:48 PM

just do what im doing. save up for hysteer. get it installed. then put stock rears up front and chevys rear

200 bucks tops for long travel springs baby

fourwd1 · 02-16-2006, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getitdone

Not to hijack, but do you have to get crossover steering to run rears up front? Seeing as how it moves the axle 2 inches forward.

You could modify/replace stock steering components to compensate, but x-over steering is a much better way, and works much better than the stock steering. And x-over steering allows you to do away with the travel limiting torque rod (that link between the axle and frame).

AJ3 · 03-14-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darth brian

how much lift do they give? with an allpro front hanger kit and their long shackles. how much total lift do i get out of going this route?

also, when putting chevy rear springs in the rear: what years do i want, 4x4 or 2wd. and after the relocation of the front hanger and rear shackle, once again, how much lift height is acheived. thanks

I am not sure of total lift but it works well! Have to have hysteer. Probably will need to add blocks in the rear with longer shackles w/o body lift. 35's no issues and they flex well. It is a fairly nice suspension w/o the money invested. Pirate is the board with all your answers when it comes to all the possible combinations for springs and the sort. Good Luck!

02-09-2006, 08:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
RED 85 Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 958	go hear for info on chevy http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=20665 And here for front spring up front http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669 And here for a whole lot more http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...8&page=1&pp=25 __________________ Brandi You heard of the boy named Sue, Well I'm a man named Brandi! '85 extra cab pick-up, Up on blocks waiting for time and money. '85 4-runner with 3" lift, 33's, 4.88's, rear ARB (still trying to get air to it), Downey intake with K&N filter, some type of header, Camo Int.

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darth brian Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 296	has anybody done this? what are the results? do you like it? any pics? __________________ rest in pieces Flying Dutchman!

02-13-2006, 09:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
fourwd1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: central Maryland Posts: 193	Have you read the FAQs provided to you above ?? There are plenty of pics in those. I don't have any pics of my Chevy swap or rears up front here at work, but here's a so-so shot of them at work. __________________ - - As seen in FOUR WHEELEER magazine July 2006, OFF-ROAD magazine Feb 2007 - - '84 4Runner SR5 - ARBed 5.29s F&R, 4.7 t-case, drv train lift, Chevys, hi-steer, 30 spl Longs '80 something Toy P/U, Buick 231 V6, Holley 4 bbl, Weiand intake, Downey headers, custom TH350 L/U w/700R4 low gearset, dual tanks, dual batterys Last edited by fourwd1; 02-13-2006 at 09:52 AM.

02-13-2006, 08:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
darth brian Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 296	yea i read them. looks interesting. i want to do it but i want an overall 4" of lift with out doing a body lift. i dont know if those springs will give me that much. the faq says 2-3 but i wonder if longer shackles would lift it more? __________________ rest in pieces Flying Dutchman!

02-13-2006, 08:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,836	Longer shackles will give lift: - http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shackles.shtml#FAQ4 __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

02-15-2006, 10:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
getitdone Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ft. Collins, Co Posts: 1,006	Not to hijack, but do you have to get crossover steering to run rears up front? Seeing as how it moves the axle 2 inches forward. __________________ Chris Fischer 3D 85 4Runner SR5 \| 33" BFG M/T on flat black rims \| Chevy springs \| Custom Grab cage with overhead cb mount \| Custom fabbed center console \| Freshly rebuilt axle with IFS hub/caliper swap \| Rock Sliders \| Lots more... In Colorado, Dig.

02-15-2006, 10:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
darth brian Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 296	no. but if you ever flex it all the way your going to snap your steering arm. you can do it just dont flex it. which makes it a waste of time. not sure about what happens about the axle moving forward. shouldnt be that big of deal. main thing is the arms breaking. __________________ rest in pieces Flying Dutchman!

02-15-2006, 10:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
darth brian Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 296	just do what im doing. save up for hysteer. get it installed. then put stock rears up front and chevys rear 200 bucks tops for long travel springs baby __________________ rest in pieces Flying Dutchman!

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