how much lift?

georgiayota · 07-21-2008, 10:27 PM

How can you tell how much lift i have? I need to know so i can get new shocks and all that good stuff.

The latest picture of it (with 33 boggers)

4Crawler · 07-21-2008, 10:39 PM

If the current shocks seem to be the correct length (i.e. they don't limit up or down travel), measure the compressed and extended lengths and go from there. If they are not the correct length, see if they need to be a little longer or shorter and adjust as needed:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/Rancho.shtml

Al's Chop Shop · 07-24-2008, 01:34 PM

looks like its stock to me.

flex it out and measure. the stock shocks on mine are waaay too short. they are sitting at about half travel when on flat ground but i have less than 2" of travel before i hit my bump stops.

Al

terrybo3 · 07-24-2008, 03:05 PM

4Crawler - How do you figure out what size shocks you need when putting a new lift on? I've got stock shocks on the rear and new stock sized shocks on the front from Napa, and I just bought a 2" toytech lift kit with 1.5" bj spacers and HD coil springs for the rear. Thanks in advance!

4Crawler · 07-24-2008, 03:07 PM

Best answer is to measure the compressed and extended lengths you need and go from there. Links on how to do that below:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/Rancho.shtml

terrybo3 · 07-24-2008, 07:40 PM

I looked at that link, and it's a little confusing to me. I'll have to study it a little more...

If I get the lengths too long, will that be better than if I get them too short?

4Crawler · 07-24-2008, 09:21 PM

Ideally you do not want the shocks limiting travel in either direction. Worst is probably to have the shock too short as that usually results in shock or shock mount damage. Many shocks have some sort of internal bump stop so bottoming out a little may not be too bad, although the ride will suffer.

Best to start with the shocks you have and see how much too short they are and go from there. How to do that? W/ shock connected, lift until a tire is in the air, then measure the shock length. Then repeat that with the shock disconnected and see how much farther (if any) the axle drops.

terrybo3 · 09-09-2008, 11:06 PM

Thanks, man! I installed the rear coil springs, and have about 1" more lift than the front. I don't see any problem with this, but I do notice the axle is shifted a little towards the passenger side of the truck. Not too bad, though. I would like to get a panhard drop from you, though, as well as some extended brake lines and diff breather. I'm not so hardcore as you guys are, though, and only see some beaches and salt water crossings every once in awhile. I don't think I'll need to mod these things too quick, unless of course the seas start rising and we all have to fight each other off for food and stuff. Then I definitely need the BEST truck...

4Crawler · 09-10-2008, 07:05 AM

As long as the brake lines are not pulled tight at full droop, the ones you have are fine unless you want to replace them for some other reason.

07-21-2008, 10:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
georgiayota Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Outside of Statesboro, Ga Posts: 200	how much lift? How can you tell how much lift i have? I need to know so i can get new shocks and all that good stuff. The latest picture of it (with 33 boggers)

07-21-2008, 10:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,265	If the current shocks seem to be the correct length (i.e. they don't limit up or down travel), measure the compressed and extended lengths and go from there. If they are not the correct length, see if they need to be a little longer or shorter and adjust as needed: - http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/Rancho.shtml __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

07-24-2008, 01:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Al's Chop Shop Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 389	looks like its stock to me. flex it out and measure. the stock shocks on mine are waaay too short. they are sitting at about half travel when on flat ground but i have less than 2" of travel before i hit my bump stops. Al __________________ 81 Toyota pickup - Hers 22r, 5spd, 4x4, longbed on 33's... awaiting custom rears up front w/ downey shackles, chev 63's out back double shackled and 36's... 79 Jeep Cherokee Widetrack "Kronk" - The Build TBI350, SM465, NP205, Hydraulic clutch, Hydroboost, Custom aluminum radiator, Flowtech headers, SOA D44HD w/ Hi-steer, D60, 36" TSL/SX's, LED tail conversion... 91 Chevy K1500 - The Hauler TBI350, built 700r4, NP241, awaiting 4" lift... 92 FJ80 Land Cruiser - Fate undecided

07-24-2008, 03:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
terrybo3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 110	4Crawler - How do you figure out what size shocks you need when putting a new lift on? I've got stock shocks on the rear and new stock sized shocks on the front from Napa, and I just bought a 2" toytech lift kit with 1.5" bj spacers and HD coil springs for the rear. Thanks in advance! __________________ ...look at that stock flex!!! :D Model: 1995 4Runner SR5 - Blue/Blue Engine/Performance: 3.0 L V6 3VZE, 5spd. Manual, everything stock so far... Suspension: Stock Tires: 31x10.50 on stock wheels Misc: Extra Power Outlet Mod (3 total outlets), 200W Power Converter Mod(for the laptop), more to come

07-24-2008, 03:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,265	Best answer is to measure the compressed and extended lengths you need and go from there. Links on how to do that below: - http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/Rancho.shtml __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

07-24-2008, 07:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
terrybo3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 110	I looked at that link, and it's a little confusing to me. I'll have to study it a little more... If I get the lengths too long, will that be better than if I get them too short? __________________ ...look at that stock flex!!! :D Model: 1995 4Runner SR5 - Blue/Blue Engine/Performance: 3.0 L V6 3VZE, 5spd. Manual, everything stock so far... Suspension: Stock Tires: 31x10.50 on stock wheels Misc: Extra Power Outlet Mod (3 total outlets), 200W Power Converter Mod(for the laptop), more to come

07-24-2008, 09:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,265	Ideally you do not want the shocks limiting travel in either direction. Worst is probably to have the shock too short as that usually results in shock or shock mount damage. Many shocks have some sort of internal bump stop so bottoming out a little may not be too bad, although the ride will suffer. Best to start with the shocks you have and see how much too short they are and go from there. How to do that? W/ shock connected, lift until a tire is in the air, then measure the shock length. Then repeat that with the shock disconnected and see how much farther (if any) the axle drops. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

09-09-2008, 11:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
terrybo3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 110	Thanks, man! I installed the rear coil springs, and have about 1" more lift than the front. I don't see any problem with this, but I do notice the axle is shifted a little towards the passenger side of the truck. Not too bad, though. I would like to get a panhard drop from you, though, as well as some extended brake lines and diff breather. I'm not so hardcore as you guys are, though, and only see some beaches and salt water crossings every once in awhile. I don't think I'll need to mod these things too quick, unless of course the seas start rising and we all have to fight each other off for food and stuff. Then I definitely need the BEST truck... __________________ ...look at that stock flex!!! :D Model: 1995 4Runner SR5 - Blue/Blue Engine/Performance: 3.0 L V6 3VZE, 5spd. Manual, everything stock so far... Suspension: Stock Tires: 31x10.50 on stock wheels Misc: Extra Power Outlet Mod (3 total outlets), 200W Power Converter Mod(for the laptop), more to come

09-10-2008, 07:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,265	As long as the brake lines are not pulled tight at full droop, the ones you have are fine unless you want to replace them for some other reason. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

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