81 yota small project - Page 2

81 yota 4x4 · 07-28-2009, 08:30 PM

painted the axle housing

new (used) leaf springs

messy garage

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81 yota 4x4 · 07-28-2009, 08:33 PM

i hit a couple of questions, 1: when i was taking the front end out i ook some shims off that i thought were just plates, now i dont know which way the go. does any one know??

2: are these suposed to be different?( wraps around the axle housing for the ubolts to go through)

81 yota 4x4 · 07-28-2009, 10:39 PM

another question. i have a 4 speed manual in it right now but i also have a 5 speed in the barn outside. a buddy of mine was talkin about how another buddy of mine with an almost identical setup couldnt touch 5th gear. he said i should get the tranny re-geard so the gears are lower so that it would be like a 4 speed with a granny low, untill i heard this i was just gonna run dual t-cases. does anyone have more info on the topic for me? gearing is kinda confusing for me.

cblackard · 07-29-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 81 yota 4x4

i hit a couple of questions, 1: when i was taking the front end out i ook some shims off that i thought were just plates, now i dont know which way the go. does any one know??

These are shims that twist the pinion upward to relieve some of the stress on the ujoints for a lifted truck (I believe they are ~ 3 degree shims) They should be placed such that the thicker side is facing towards the front of the truck. You will understand when you place them between the springs and the spring pads.

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2: are these suposed to be different?( wraps around the axle housing for the ubolts to go through)

As for the u-bolt backets, I believe mine are similar in design. I would bet the one on the left is for the passenger side since it has to work next to the "pumpkin" in conjunction with the spring pad type piece welded to the bottom of the housing

CB

**Tofer** · 07-29-2009, 09:41 AM

i would get a ubolt flip kit for the front... well worth the 50 bucks.

looks like you got a sweet lil project there.... let me know if you need any Trail-gear parts. i am a TG dealer and live just up in tacoma....

we should go wheelin sometime!

81 yota 4x4 · 07-29-2009, 11:15 AM

awsome thanks for the help

83 · 07-29-2009, 11:33 AM

I don't know about regearing the tranny, but you could definitely regear the axles. The axle/differential is what people put different gears in to help with bigger tires. So yeah, your gears are for 28" tires. You put those big tires on and your gear ratio to tire size is thrown way off so you lose all your power. Going to different gears (like 4.88 or so) will return you to close to stock set up, so you'll actually be able to move those tires. Not sure what the effect of the dual t-cases will be on this, but I don't know that it will effect your 2wd performance at all.

cblackard · 07-30-2009, 04:26 AM

This site has several calculators to use for regearing. I was using 5.29:1 gears with 38" Swampers and the stock V6 with excellent results. The speedometer was even close to being accurate.

http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...alculators.htm

The trick is if you get it wrong, you have to live with it or buy another set of gears. If you are not sure about the gear ratio you want, or you get a ton of conflicting suggestions, try the calculator and buy just the set for the rear axle. if you think it's too much or too little, change it out accordingly. Then buy the matching gears for the front.

CB

81 yota 4x4 · 08-02-2009, 02:30 PM

yeah ill probly use that but i just want to get the thing road worthy for now so i can get to school

81 yota 4x4 · 08-03-2009, 11:39 PM

i want some trail gear axles but i dont think i have the money for em now so ill probly have to use what i got for now, but could i get a price for the entire birfield axle assembly?

**Tofer** · 08-04-2009, 10:52 AM

are you asking for a quote for the dirty 30s and hub gears?

81 yota 4x4 · 08-04-2009, 11:47 AM

yes? maby, i want axles and birfields, whats a dirty 30

81 yota 4x4 · 08-05-2009, 12:33 PM

i think i just need the dirty 30's (i looked it up)

81 yota 4x4 · 08-05-2009, 07:12 PM

its back in, no blocks

81 yota 4x4 · 08-17-2009, 11:25 PM

old birfield

4 piston calipers and green hub indicater

rear axle housing

rear diff(rust)

81 yota 4x4 · 08-17-2009, 11:26 PM

front end is copletely done

shaw_j · 08-17-2009, 11:37 PM

Looks like you've got some funky blocks going on with the rear too... any better shots of that?

If it's square tubing, you may be in for some trouble

81 yota 4x4 · 08-17-2009, 11:51 PM

81 yota 4x4 · 08-17-2009, 11:51 PM

whats wrong with square tubing?

81 yota 4x4 · 08-20-2009, 11:34 PM

that part in the axle housing. do i need it, whats it do?
i accidently put the diff in w/o it and waas wondering if i had to take the diff back out

shaw_j · 08-21-2009, 12:37 AM

Not that there's anything necessarily "wrong" with it, just that if you are going to go with blocks (key part there being the word: blocks) you would figure that It would be done with a... block?

Not to be ragging on you at all, I know you bought it the way that it is, and it's very good to see you turning it around.

81 yota 4x4 · 08-21-2009, 10:29 AM

alright

just hoping there wasnt another thing to fix on it

shaw_j · 08-21-2009, 02:26 PM

I would.

Blocks are okay, but they promote axle wrap, often shoot out, or even break. Square tubing will not be as strong as a block, and honestly I wouldn't use it (square tubing) unless it was on a trail only rig.

Lift springs are the best way to go.

81 yota 4x4 · 08-27-2009, 10:32 PM

yeah
ill get lift springs in the future sometime

80Yoda63B · 08-29-2009, 08:53 AM

hey bro, truck looks great, im stationed here at fort lewis, wa myself, send me a message sometime, interested in some new places to offroad, mostly been playin around off exit 116 old nisqually, off mounts rd.. cops arent having it anymore though, heard about a place called Elby hills offroad park, been there?

07-29-2009, 09:41 AM	#30 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,901	i would get a ubolt flip kit for the front... well worth the 50 bucks. looks like you got a sweet lil project there.... let me know if you need any Trail-gear parts. i am a TG dealer and live just up in tacoma.... we should go wheelin sometime! __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

07-29-2009, 11:33 AM	#32 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	I don't know about regearing the tranny, but you could definitely regear the axles. The axle/differential is what people put different gears in to help with bigger tires. So yeah, your gears are for 28" tires. You put those big tires on and your gear ratio to tire size is thrown way off so you lose all your power. Going to different gears (like 4.88 or so) will return you to close to stock set up, so you'll actually be able to move those tires. Not sure what the effect of the dual t-cases will be on this, but I don't know that it will effect your 2wd performance at all. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

07-30-2009, 04:26 AM	#33 (permalink)
cblackard Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 17	This site has several calculators to use for regearing. I was using 5.29:1 gears with 38" Swampers and the stock V6 with excellent results. The speedometer was even close to being accurate. http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...alculators.htm The trick is if you get it wrong, you have to live with it or buy another set of gears. If you are not sure about the gear ratio you want, or you get a ton of conflicting suggestions, try the calculator and buy just the set for the rear axle. if you think it's too much or too little, change it out accordingly. Then buy the matching gears for the front. CB __________________ *Christopher* 1991 Toyota SR5 X-tra Cab, SAS, 4.3 Vortec, 42" Swampers, 5.29:1 gears.

08-04-2009, 10:52 AM	#36 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,901	are you asking for a quote for the dirty 30s and hub gears? __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

08-17-2009, 11:37 PM	#42 (permalink)
shaw_j Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nelson, BC, Canada Posts: 299	Looks like you've got some funky blocks going on with the rear too... any better shots of that? If it's square tubing, you may be in for some trouble __________________ ________________________________ \| \|---------\|-------------\|---------\| \| \| \|----------\|--TOYOTA---\|----------\| \| \| \|-----------\|-------------\|----V6----\| \| _____________________________________________ \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\| \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / TOYOTA / \ \|\| \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\| \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|

07-28-2009, 08:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	i hit a couple of questions, 1: when i was taking the front end out i ook some shims off that i thought were just plates, now i dont know which way the go. does any one know?? 2: are these suposed to be different?( wraps around the axle housing for the ubolts to go through)

07-28-2009, 10:39 PM	#28 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	another question. i have a 4 speed manual in it right now but i also have a 5 speed in the barn outside. a buddy of mine was talkin about how another buddy of mine with an almost identical setup couldnt touch 5th gear. he said i should get the tranny re-geard so the gears are lower so that it would be like a 4 speed with a granny low, untill i heard this i was just gonna run dual t-cases. does anyone have more info on the topic for me? gearing is kinda confusing for me.

07-29-2009, 11:15 AM	#31 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	awsome thanks for the help

08-02-2009, 02:30 PM	#34 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	yeah ill probly use that but i just want to get the thing road worthy for now so i can get to school

08-03-2009, 11:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	i want some trail gear axles but i dont think i have the money for em now so ill probly have to use what i got for now, but could i get a price for the entire birfield axle assembly?

08-04-2009, 11:47 AM	#37 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	yes? maby, i want axles and birfields, whats a dirty 30

08-05-2009, 12:33 PM	#38 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	i think i just need the dirty 30's (i looked it up)

08-05-2009, 07:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	its back in, no blocks

08-17-2009, 11:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	old birfield 4 piston calipers and green hub indicater rear axle housing rear diff(rust)

08-17-2009, 11:26 PM	#41 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	front end is copletely done

08-17-2009, 11:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57

08-17-2009, 11:51 PM	#44 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	whats wrong with square tubing?

08-20-2009, 11:34 PM	#45 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	that part in the axle housing. do i need it, whats it do? i accidently put the diff in w/o it and waas wondering if i had to take the diff back out

08-21-2009, 12:37 AM	#46 (permalink)
shaw_j Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nelson, BC, Canada Posts: 299	Not that there's anything necessarily "wrong" with it, just that if you are going to go with blocks (key part there being the word: blocks) you would figure that It would be done with a... block? Not to be ragging on you at all, I know you bought it the way that it is, and it's very good to see you turning it around. __________________ ________________________________ \| \|---------\|-------------\|---------\| \| \| \|----------\|--TOYOTA---\|----------\| \| \| \|-----------\|-------------\|----V6----\| \| _____________________________________________ \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\| \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / TOYOTA / \ \|\| \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\| \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|

08-21-2009, 10:29 AM	#47 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	alright just hoping there wasnt another thing to fix on it

08-21-2009, 02:26 PM	#48 (permalink)
shaw_j Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nelson, BC, Canada Posts: 299	I would. Blocks are okay, but they promote axle wrap, often shoot out, or even break. Square tubing will not be as strong as a block, and honestly I wouldn't use it (square tubing) unless it was on a trail only rig. Lift springs are the best way to go. __________________ ________________________________ \| \|---------\|-------------\|---------\| \| \| \|----------\|--TOYOTA---\|----------\| \| \| \|-----------\|-------------\|----V6----\| \| _____________________________________________ \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\| \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / TOYOTA / \ \|\| \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\| \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\|\ / \ / \|\|/ \ / \ \|\| Last edited by shaw_j; 08-21-2009 at 02:27 PM.

08-27-2009, 10:32 PM	#49 (permalink)
81 yota 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 57	yeah ill get lift springs in the future sometime

08-29-2009, 08:53 AM	#50 (permalink)
80Yoda63B Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Lewis, Washington Posts: 7	hey bro, truck looks great, im stationed here at fort lewis, wa myself, send me a message sometime, interested in some new places to offroad, mostly been playin around off exit 116 old nisqually, off mounts rd.. cops arent having it anymore though, heard about a place called Elby hills offroad park, been there?

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