Trueflow air filter

BruceTS · 10-13-2005, 09:19 PM

A few years ago I saw a demo of this air filter at the Offroad Expo, but for the life of me I couldn't remember the name brand, so like everyone else I purchased an Amsoil brand. Okay, there's a huge difference in the quality of the Trueflow VS the Amsoil, in relation to construction. I remember Gadget making a post that he didn't like the new design of the Amsoil filter compared to the earlier one???? Then when I saw Charle's filter(older version) I knew why, they really cheapened the design. The Trueflow filter has a solid frame around the foam inner, that took a bit of persuation to get into my air box. It fit very tight, but this is a good thing, unlike the Amsoil that didn't seal well at all. The bottom of the airbox there are spring loaded clips that lock the filter against the housing. The Amsoil's design doesn't clip in at all, thus causing a very poor fit.

I've attached 3 photo's showing a front view and the solid frame that retains the filter, then one showing the back side, where you can clearly see it has a larger surface area exposed and finally one showing the poor construction of the Amsoil filter.

Cleaning the filter is similar to the Amsoil, but when it comes to lubing, they have a spray can, unlike the bottle that you have to pour over, then try and work into the foam, if you've done it, you know how messy it can get.

As for filtration, they are both 2-stage foam filter, but because of the construction, I think the Trueflow should be much better. The demo at the Expo, showed it filtered better than a K&N or a stock paper, without causing any additional restriction in air flow.

Jason B · 10-18-2005, 08:45 PM

Great review. I've heard good things about these. I can also get them if anyone wants one.

96-02 V6 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_96u_v6

03-05 V8 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_03u_v8

travelinman · 10-18-2005, 09:05 PM

I can't tell. Does the trueflow have a rubberized outer edge to give a good seal against the airbox? And, how much are these? Jason?

BruceTS · 10-18-2005, 09:08 PM

Yes they do have a rubber seal, the frame is a hard plastic

Oh and I found this quote

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget

It seems that when AMSOIL redigned their filter line they took a great filter for the Toyota trucks and turned it into less then great. WHY???

Gadget

Added a few close-ups

FilthyRich · 10-18-2005, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelinman

And, how much are these? Jason?

Me too, interested.

Bob_98SR5 · 10-18-2005, 09:24 PM

bruce, et al:

amsoil now sells an aerosol air filter. i personally havent bought it b/c i still have 1/2 a bottl of the fluid, but two customers have said that it rocks

bob

BruceTS · 10-18-2005, 09:33 PM

I haven't priced the amsoil recharge kit, do they compare to this price?

Jason B · 10-18-2005, 09:43 PM

I'm going to try an offer a deal for you guys. I will be working close, but I don't mind helping others out if I can. Give me a day. Those interested, shoot email.

calrockx · 10-18-2005, 10:01 PM

Yeah, re-oiling my amsoil filter is kind of a messy process.

I wondering...could i just buy the Trueflow(or Amsoil brand for that matter) spray can and use it on my older-style Amsoil air filter? I've already got it and don't really need a new air filter.

BruceTS · 10-19-2005, 10:03 AM

I don't see why not, they are both foam filters.......

Jason B · 10-19-2005, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyRich

Me too, interested.

96-02 V6 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_96u_v6

03-05 V8 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_03u_v8

And for 2nd gens:

90-95 4cyl Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo...truflo_90u_4cy

Intrepid · 10-19-2005, 11:21 AM

I have been hearing good things about these too. They have some videos on their website and I had seen some video of a test they did at a car show that seemed pretty impressive. http://www.realtruck.com/videos/trueflowvideos.php
Under the viewer scroll to the test results a click play.

Jason B · 10-19-2005, 01:44 PM

I've added the video to the link I posted. At bottom.

X-AWDriver · 10-19-2005, 01:56 PM

Bah,the video is just some chick flappin' her mouth;I was hoping for footage of the filter itself.

Jason B · 10-19-2005, 02:16 PM

Try it again.

Click "view a video" at bottom:

96-02 V6 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_96u_v6

03-05 V8 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_03u_v8

travelinman · 10-19-2005, 02:20 PM

I just ordered one from Jason B today. I like the idea of having a tighter fit in the box (don't go there). One of my complaints about the Amsoil filters from the beginnng is their loose fit; like they need to warm up to have a good seal. The TrueFlows look like they'll do a better job all around I.M.O.

Personal Plug: If you get one, order it from Jason B. If you've not dealt with him in the past, give him and Burtman Industries a try. His customer service is awesome and he really wants to get you what you need for your ride. He's gone out of his way to get me a couple of items in the past. And, he's one of our yotatech brothers!

BruceTS · 10-19-2005, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

Bah,the video is just some chick flappin' her mouth;I was hoping for footage of the filter itself.

Scroll down the list and click on the one that says "True Flow Test Results"
they demo the filter against a paper and K&N, the same they did at the Expo.

AMSOILKing · 10-24-2005, 09:06 AM

Just go to this link http://www.amsoil.com/products/ea_filters/EaA.aspx

BruceTS · 10-27-2005, 08:44 PM

Quote:

AMSOIL INC. of Superior, WI announces the introduction of a new premium, high efficiency air filter utilizing nanofiber technology with a four year/100,000 mile service life guarantee and superior air flow. Positioning itself to be a world class leader in filtration, the AMSOIL Ea Filter is incomparable in both design and performance.

If it filters as good as they say, then there is no way you'll get 4 years or 100,000 miles out of it, if anything it'll need changing more often.

**4x4Fink** · 10-28-2005, 02:03 PM

Just ordered one myself, I'll post when I get it and let ya know how it fits and all that.

Jason B. rocks!

Fink

humanoid · 10-29-2005, 12:23 AM

Jason - I'm assuming these should fit my '99 3.4L V6 Taco as well, right?

10-13-2005, 09:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
BruceTS Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,319	Trueflow air filter VS Amsoil A few years ago I saw a demo of this air filter at the Offroad Expo, but for the life of me I couldn't remember the name brand, so like everyone else I purchased an Amsoil brand. Okay, there's a huge difference in the quality of the Trueflow VS the Amsoil, in relation to construction. I remember Gadget making a post that he didn't like the new design of the Amsoil filter compared to the earlier one???? Then when I saw Charle's filter(older version) I knew why, they really cheapened the design. The Trueflow filter has a solid frame around the foam inner, that took a bit of persuation to get into my air box. It fit very tight, but this is a good thing, unlike the Amsoil that didn't seal well at all. The bottom of the airbox there are spring loaded clips that lock the filter against the housing. The Amsoil's design doesn't clip in at all, thus causing a very poor fit. I've attached 3 photo's showing a front view and the solid frame that retains the filter, then one showing the back side, where you can clearly see it has a larger surface area exposed and finally one showing the poor construction of the Amsoil filter. Cleaning the filter is similar to the Amsoil, but when it comes to lubing, they have a spray can, unlike the bottle that you have to pour over, then try and work into the foam, if you've done it, you know how messy it can get. As for filtration, they are both 2-stage foam filter, but because of the construction, I think the Trueflow should be much better. The demo at the Expo, showed it filtered better than a K&N or a stock paper, without causing any additional restriction in air flow. Last edited by BruceTS : 06-02-2007 at 07:14 AM.

10-18-2005, 08:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jason B Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA-PA Posts: 1,869	Great review. I've heard good things about these. I can also get them if anyone wants one. 96-02 V6 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_96u_v6 03-05 V8 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_03u_v8 __________________ Jason B 4Runner Limited For Toyota/SUV Accessories, please visit *www.burtmanindustries.com* My 4Runner Website Email: jason@burtmanindustries.com Live Chat/Message Board: http://get.to/jasonforum AOL/AIM: JNB133 Last edited by Jason B : 10-28-2005 at 12:44 PM.

10-18-2005, 09:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
travelinman Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 167	I can't tell. Does the trueflow have a rubberized outer edge to give a good seal against the airbox? And, how much are these? Jason? __________________ '99 4Runner SR5 Highlander w/rear elocker - 4th Gen TRD Supercharger - Airaid M.I.T. - TRD Tranny Cooler - Deck Plate Mod - Denso 5062 plugs - 265/75 R16 BFG A/T ko - Amsoil fluids all around - Trueflow A.F. - PP Springs/Bilstein Shocks - Manik side tubes/grill guard - Yakima Snowboard rack/load warrior rack - '02 taillights

10-18-2005, 09:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jason B Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA-PA Posts: 1,869	I'm going to try an offer a deal for you guys. I will be working close, but I don't mind helping others out if I can. Give me a day. Those interested, shoot email. __________________ Jason B 4Runner Limited For Toyota/SUV Accessories, please visit *www.burtmanindustries.com* My 4Runner Website Email: jason@burtmanindustries.com Live Chat/Message Board: http://get.to/jasonforum AOL/AIM: JNB133

10-18-2005, 10:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
calrockx Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 4,746	Yeah, re-oiling my amsoil filter is kind of a messy process. I wondering...could i just buy the Trueflow(or Amsoil brand for that matter) spray can and use it on my older-style Amsoil air filter? I've already got it and don't really need a new air filter. __________________ [2002 4Runner 4WD]

10-18-2005, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,115	bruce, et al: amsoil now sells an aerosol air filter. i personally havent bought it b/c i still have 1/2 a bottl of the fluid, but two customers have said that it rocks bob

10-18-2005, 09:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
BruceTS Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,319	I haven't priced the amsoil recharge kit, do they compare to this price?

10-19-2005, 10:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
BruceTS Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,319	I don't see why not, they are both foam filters.......

10-19-2005, 11:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,719	I have been hearing good things about these too. They have some videos on their website and I had seen some video of a test they did at a car show that seemed pretty impressive. http://www.realtruck.com/videos/trueflowvideos.php Under the viewer scroll to the test results a click play. __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

10-19-2005, 01:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jason B Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA-PA Posts: 1,869	I've added the video to the link I posted. At bottom. __________________ Jason B 4Runner Limited For Toyota/SUV Accessories, please visit *www.burtmanindustries.com* My 4Runner Website Email: jason@burtmanindustries.com Live Chat/Message Board: http://get.to/jasonforum AOL/AIM: JNB133

10-19-2005, 01:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 9,538	Bah,the video is just some chick flappin' her mouth;I was hoping for footage of the filter itself. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

10-19-2005, 02:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jason B Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA-PA Posts: 1,869	Try it again. Click "view a video" at bottom: 96-02 V6 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_96u_v6 03-05 V8 Filter http://www.burtmanindustries.com/zoo..._truflo_03u_v8 __________________ Jason B 4Runner Limited For Toyota/SUV Accessories, please visit *www.burtmanindustries.com* My 4Runner Website Email: jason@burtmanindustries.com Live Chat/Message Board: http://get.to/jasonforum AOL/AIM: JNB133 Last edited by Jason B : 10-28-2005 at 12:45 PM.

10-19-2005, 02:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
travelinman Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 167	I just ordered one from Jason B today. I like the idea of having a tighter fit in the box (don't go there). One of my complaints about the Amsoil filters from the beginnng is their loose fit; like they need to warm up to have a good seal. The TrueFlows look like they'll do a better job all around I.M.O. Personal Plug: If you get one, order it from Jason B. If you've not dealt with him in the past, give him and Burtman Industries a try. His customer service is awesome and he really wants to get you what you need for your ride. He's gone out of his way to get me a couple of items in the past. And, he's one of our yotatech brothers! __________________ '99 4Runner SR5 Highlander w/rear elocker - 4th Gen TRD Supercharger - Airaid M.I.T. - TRD Tranny Cooler - Deck Plate Mod - Denso 5062 plugs - 265/75 R16 BFG A/T ko - Amsoil fluids all around - Trueflow A.F. - PP Springs/Bilstein Shocks - Manik side tubes/grill guard - Yakima Snowboard rack/load warrior rack - '02 taillights

10-24-2005, 09:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
AMSOILKing Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Taylorsville NC Posts: 9	Just go to this link http://www.amsoil.com/products/ea_filters/EaA.aspx

10-28-2005, 02:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 4,676	Just ordered one myself, I'll post when I get it and let ya know how it fits and all that. Jason B. rocks! Fink __________________ Black 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA

10-29-2005, 12:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
humanoid Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sunny SoCal Posts: 1,206	Jason - I'm assuming these should fit my '99 3.4L V6 Taco as well, right? __________________