The rear of my T100 is sagging a bit, I am going to replace all 4 shocks soon-but I wondered about adding in a leaf to the pack or getting a whole new pack.

Anyone a decently cost effective solution-I am not paying 500 bucks or more!

I was looking into some wheelers.com gear and I saw: http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/tundradstrlift.htm

"Tundra 1.5" Lift Rear Full Length Add-A-Leaf Set: 77.50 Wheeler's custom leaf set with diamond cut ends and anti-friction pads. Not a Daystar product." This seems like a good idea, I just need to give it a bit more lift.

Also anyone know a U bolt flip mod I could look into while doing the leafpack or extra leaf?

 

Those will provide the lift you want, but also a stiffer ride, especially if your bed is often empty. Actually, depending on how much you're sagging, it may not provide as much lift as you need/want. And if they're not a Daystar product, who makes them?

I would go with that kit to beef up my rear end if I were towing or hauling more than usual, but not just to fix a sagging rear end. A new pair of shackles would be cheap and effective but it really depends on the condition of your leaf packs. If they're nearly flat or already in a negative arch, it would be a good idea to get them re-arched or replace them altogether. Perhaps a replacement pair from a salvage yard? I know a Tacoma owner who got an inch or two lift just by flipping his bottom leaf over. Again, depends on their condition.

I use an airbag kit with my stock leaf springs to compensate for the weight of my camper. I like them because airbags are adjustable. I won't leave the camper on the truck in the winter, so it's a fairly normal ride when unloaded. But when I hook up my snowmobile trailer, I can adjust the airbags for towing. They're pretty versatile. The airbag kit was around $150 from Airlift, Inc. Firestone offers a similar kit, similarly priced.

I guess I would -
1) re-arch the springs. cheap and effective
2) get a new pair of shackles for the amount of lift you require. cheap and effective
3) adjustable airbags. great ride, not too expensive
4) call Alcan and have new spring packs made. not cheap but might be under $500
5) no blocks, no blocks, no blocks. even if they're free

Airbags in action on the Lockhart Basin trail near Moab -

 

A vote for the local salvage yard. Just get another set and see how they work, they shouldn't cost much. I doubt you're sagging too much. Otherwise throw an add-a-leaf in.

I may just go with the airbag idea, as I do quite a bit of heavy hauling and am looking at getting a similar camper.

And yeah, no blocks...T's have horrid axle wrap.

 

So an add a leaf would maybe work? I dont think I would need airbags, I dont have a fullsize camper and only haul stuff every so often.

Can I just take a leaf from a local salavge yard? I highly doubt they have a T100 leaf thier, maybe a tundra may work.

Here is the response I got from wheelers-no idea what they want me to measure (I could provide a picand maybe someone could tell me): Then I saw these:
Deaver Racing 1.5" Lift Progressive Add A Leaf Kit: 190.00 Replaces factory overload with a 3 leaf progressive add a leaf kit. Includes U-bolts. http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/donahoetundra.htm

They seem like a better idea and on 4x4 wire another guy i was talking qwith said thats what he runs and they fit no problem. Difference between these and a leaf I could find at a yard I dunno? Imho a local salvage yard would work too if I knew what I needed. My idea was to lift my rear about 1.5-2" and put ball joint spacers in the front for a mild lift (or 1" body lift all the way around).

I am not a hardcore offroader and wanted some articulation and lift to fit some bigger meats-but nothing crazy, just enough to tackle some decent trails and mild crawling. Its a DD so it has to be decent on road, I dont mind stiffness tbh.

The next step was to add some bilstein HD rear/front shocks, which may fix the sag-but my rear is almost level with the entire truck right now, usually it should be higher-no?

Thanks to everyone for the help.

 

If you can't afford it now, why not just wait until you can afford what you want? Do it right and you'll be happier in the long run.

 

I never said I couldnt afford it, I said I dont wanna spend a grand into lifting my truck when I wont be needing such a hardcore lift. Plus why spend alot when you can spend little and get the same effects?

I like going to the trail, but I dont like crawling. The lift I surmise will get me alot of places when I get the rear locker and front LSD. You dont need a huge lift to go places ya know, if I can acheive the same prowess a 4" suspension lift does with a ball joint spacer kit and some rear leaf packs why not?

Bottom line is all I want is 2-3" max..thats it.

 

personally i like the front end to sit up higher or at least level.. but when towing you want it to sit level.. i would go the cheap way..

 

Effects and results are two different things.

Adding a leaf to a flat pack or a leaf pack in negative arch will be a waste of money and time. If your springs are in decent shape, a shackle lift will give you lift for the lowest cost and least effect on your ride. An add-a-leaf (to a leaf pack in decent condition) will also give you the lift you want at a low cost but the daily ride will suffer when unloaded.

Re-arching your springs and adding an add-a-leaf is what it sounds like you need if you like the firmer ride. A similar option if re-arching is not possible, see if you can find a matching pair of rear leaf springs off of a T100 at a salvage yard. Get the whole packs not just one leaf spring ,and add a leaf to those for your lift. Airbags will provide adjustable lift (1-3 inches) with a much better ride, on the trail and on the road, whether you tow and haul or not.

 

After conversing more with wheelers and a guy who runs the deaver $190 kit I came to the end result:

I can run the deaver pack, it will directly bolt on. It isnt stiff at all as its progressive and the guy who wheeled and DD with it in his T100 found them fine.

We also agreed that a 4Crawler ball joint spacer kit will work as well.

Overall if it doesnt I wont be disapointed cause I tried and thats the best oyu can hope. We feel it willw ork, he ran a similar set up for 3 months with the spring pack and total chaos coilovers up front.

I appreicate the advice from all of you and I may change my mind, but for now what I wrote above is it. Thanks again, your all a big help!

Its all a big journey and there is an end to it somewhere I will soon find.

 

I would love to know how it turned out. I am experiencing flattened springs as well. I am also looking into the 4crawler ball joint spacer. Any pics?

 

It never materialized b/c I have a vibration I cant seem to fix in my drivetrain. Have the parts but never put them on..

 

What parts do you have? If you decide to get rid of them ,let me know.

 

I might be bagging my truck soon. I might hit you up for some advice once I get there.