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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Best clutch for the 3VZE

My centerforce dual friction is wasted after 30,000 miles.

Jeez, this engine repair is really getting expensive. Looks like $350 is the best I can find.

Is there anything better (and hopefully less expensive) on the market today?


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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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when you find out let me know because i have had the same problem
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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I'm running the LUK pro gold from dial-a-clutch.com it has a very strong pressure plate (cause's a stiff pedal) and was priced pretty well. going on 35k miles with no apreciable wear
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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I talked to the Part Source by my house, and they have clutch kits from like $130.

Or you could go with a Marlin clutch, they have them for $275
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Just talked to Centerforce, they said tough luck buddy, no warranty, no help.

hmm. looking at the marlin now...
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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im on my 3rd... the one that came in it when i bought the truck... replaced that one after i couldnt acclerate up entrance ramps to the interstate....

second one got replaced a bit early when i did the engine swap when it puked its second HG with a centerforce.

Im not teribly impressed with the centerforce and can easly bog it down and make it slip. (what does dumping the clutch and barking the tires sound like anyway?)
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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It'll bark the tires, but won't do it twice in a row.
Seems to me like the CF Dual just didn't have the head dissapation they claimed.

Looking hard at the Marlin ceramic right now, want to ask some questions and they don't answer the phone. email I guess.

Nice that marlin includes a throwout and pilot w/ the deal.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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I put almost 200,000 miles on my OEM original clutch. Same thing in for the second one....
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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my original clutch had 189 thousand on it when I replaced it. Wouldn't grab hard enough to spin the tires but it never really sliped. Same thing for my new OEM style clutch. I would like to have something that grabed a little harder
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Bets clutch i had was i hayes super truck or somethign liek that it says they are rated fro snowplows and heavy towing and its is amazing i have had it for 20,000 with nbo problem and the pedal is way smoother than stock with abotu the same presure. If i am right i think it was a little under 200 bucks from summit racing. As for oem i boguht on after a rebuild and after 1000 miles the disc actually came apart in there and i had to replace the whole thing.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Marlin

I just ordered a heavy-duty OEM clutch kit for my 5-speed swap from Marlin Crawler. I have heard great things about them. They also have a pucked ceramic clutch for a bit more cash. They're both below $350. Mine was about $200 and I believe that the ceramic was about $250 but can't remember.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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For what it's worth, I just ordered the Marlin Crawler MC-11009 Clutch.
Initially I was going with the ceramic version, but after speaking with Marlin on the subject they say it's extremly grabby, more on-off than anything else and won't slip. They reccomond their standard Heavy Duty kit for a street/offroad truck. The ceramic for racing.
It comes with the 1200lb pressure plate, heavier ones are not available for the 3VZE. For reference stock is 900lbs.

Nice thing is that this is $150 LESS expensive than replacing my Centerforce AND comes with pilot & throwout bearings (another $60 of stuff.)

I'll come back in a while and update this with initial impressions (once I get the motor running again) and later a long term.

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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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I just ordered the same thing... Its just a matter of finding the weekend to put in!
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Marlin Crawler has awesome stuff...
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Ooo let me know how it works out. My centerforce has been slipping lately, and I think it's bout time to replace. Have a stage 2 currently, and was thinking about their stage 3, but heck, if that heavy duty marlin crawler works great, I just might order me one!
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Highly impressed with this MC-11009 Marlin Clutch Heavy Duty Semi-Metallic Clutch Kit from Marlin.
$200 and it comes with everything you need
ASIN 47718ASN Pressure Plate
Seco 48615SEC disk
Throwout bearing
pilot bearing
and they even throw in an alignment tool.


I cut the flywheel w/ a .026" step as instructed and assembly went easily, no surprises.
First time I used it I thought it was broken, the pedle feels is very light. But it works great. Smooth as silk, locks it up where you want it to, doesn't seem to fade (though I've yet to hammer it hard) and the trans hasn't shifted so well in a decade.

I did speak to them about the Ceramic version and was told that I wouldn't like it. Very sudden grab and not good for the street.

They were right about one thing, I do like what I got.
Overall I'd give the Marlin Clutch Kit a thumbs up, $200 well spent.
way better than the Centerforce Dual Friction was on it's best day and half the price.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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Yea I have the same clutch and am also very happy. I could spin the old clutch on a small obstacle no problem, now with this one I'm in love. FWIW it looks like trailgear sells the same clutch for a little less $.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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delete, dbl post

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Awesome, glad you're likin it. So it's decent for street I gather, but what about it's offroadability? Taken it off the beaten path yet?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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I've never had a problem with my marlin clutch off road. Hey its from Marlin what do you expect.
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