My brother just put one in his Rodeo and it hits HARD!!

Just wondering if anyone else has heard the power of this sub.

I was lucky because now I get his 2 10" W3s.

 

what sub is considered by the real sound guys to be the mopst overrated sub on the planet. The real consideration of how a sub is not only how hard it hits, but what it can handle. Brand like Digital Designs DD and the higher level Rockfords ie t1s &t2s, Diamond Audio TDX, Eclpse 8100 and 9000 series subs. All require more power to push them. The acept insane wattage. Wattage so high it would most likley nuke a w7. The deisgn of the w7 has limitations on power. I actually burned the magnent on one with my Rockford 1000 watt amp. The sub was hitting hard but could not handle the raw power of the amp. I threw the amp onto my DD and it was asking for more power. The 1000 watts was not enough. But with the 1000watts I easily out slamed the w7. The only sub that gave me rubs with my system was my friends JBL Gti, it was taking a draw of almsot 5000watts though. But like I said decent sub, its just over rated. JL is not the best brand out there. Its just commonly known to people who just know a little about car stereo, thus people think the world of it.

 

I agree with the evaluation. A W7 stacked up to most peoples daily driver setups will blow them away though. I have 3 10w6's and am looking into Digital Designs, Adire, or Resonant Engineering... as those are the next step up IMO.

If you have the money to power them right, there are some great subs out there. A friend of mine had a 10w7 with a 500 watt rockford and it was fairly loud, sq could have been a little better.

If you are not competing, I think the W7 is a good subwoofer - There are other brands out there with just as good or better products for a little less money though.

BigCahuna - where did you get your DD subs? I have been looking around for them, found one on ebay but I didn't trust that the seller hadn't abused it.

 

I got them here in Hawaii, there is a local rep Secruity and sound. All I can say is I have 2 very loud things in my life. My sound system and my girlfriend. Only one I can turn off the sound and leave

 

I've got 2 15's in a custom made ported box with light up grills and a 1,600 watt 2-channel amp. The subs put out 1,100 R.M.S. each and 2,200 max. Thats about as loud as a W7. Its the kind of loud where you can't swallow or have to yell at the top of your lungs loud. All of the stuff is made by Audiobahn and is in great condition. I'm selling it all with a 2 guage amp kit for $800. It was all $1,100 brand new and was only used for about 3 months till my deck got stolen.

 

Haha don't you wish you could do that to the other sometimes

I have 2 12W7's and all I can say is "Wow". I only had about 300w running to each (only had a 4 channel from my previous setup) but blew my amp yesterday but you could hear me coming two blocks away. For personal use, I don't think you can find better. For comps though, there's a guy on here with a couple Digital Designs (or at least he used to, I don't remember) and he loves them.

 

^ JL 12w7

each one is run off of one of these



It's plenty loud, and I love the sound. I've had the DD 3512's, and they are LOUD, but the SQ wasn't all that great.

 

W7's are overrated. kids just go out and buy "W7's" and "type R's" cuz they hear about em from their friends. JL is overpriced and overrated in my opinion. spl AND sq is mostly dependant on the install. but other subs to consider, are Resonant Engineering's XXX and Adire audio's Brahma. both have better sq and spl capabilities than a W7. both brands are relatively unheard of, but ask any hardcore sound competitor and theyll recognize the name...OH, and they cost like half as much as a W7

 

p.s.-other subs you may want to consider if you want to be more "mainstream" are the MTX 9500 series subs or Eclipse titaniums...but theyre rather expensive..in the range of the W7

 

Very nice. Where are they located? Do you have any pics of the cab to get a better idea of how everything is set up?

 

I'd love to get a XXX or a Brahma, but I've been trying to keep my mind off of car audio...it's too expensive. Reading up on it makes me want to get a new setup again. I'll need a HO alternator first... Do you know what the new address is for RE site? I might need it with Christmas around the corner!

 

Yep, car audio can get very expensive. I get dealer prices and I spent about $600 bucks on my 2 15s from Rockford. Not to mention how much moneY im gonna spens building the custom encousre. Then you gotta consider that your gonna need at least $100 in 1/0 power wires. Then you gotta upgrade your batterys and caps. Im also looking into a new amp the rockford 2000bd

 

Don't forget the high output alternator. This things cost a good amount of money too.

 

Yep, I know that to. I must have spent over $2000 just to have boom

 

Ok I have some issues with this thread.

Right now in the SQ lanes JL's w7 is actually doing VERY well. Why? XBL^2 based technology. As far as accurate reproduction in sound there is not a sub on the car audio planet that matches it. The brahma and the XXX come close but dont have the plateau like BL curve this sucker has. The SPL of a system and the SQ of a system are DIAMETRIC OPPOSITES. If you have a sub that does both, you have a compromised sub. DD is dedicated to the SPL side, JL to the SQ side, RE has subs for both sides. And as such all 3 companies are doing juuust fine. A w7 will get murdered in the SPL lanes because it was not designed to fart out a single note loudly. It was made to accurately reproduce the electrical signal it is being fed only. (If JL hypes the w7 as having massive SPL, that is hype.)

Yes the box, the preamp settings, and the install will make or break the sound of a sub. But you CANNOT just do a sub swap in one box and declare a winnner, that's idiotic. Each sub's most very basic parameters dictate this. But install a 13w7 in the proper box, set the amps correctly, and have the correct box, and learn how to listen to your bass, and you will be astonished at how sloppy and crappy other subs sound.

I own 2 DD 9915's, they NUKED with only 4400 watts going to each. A 3" voice coil can only handle so much heat before the glue decides to burn up. And btw the DDs sounded like ASS! I had them in every box size from 10 cubes common chamber to 2.2 cubes per sub in every tuning btwn 30hz and 50hz. The new 9900 series and 9500 series both share the same motor and have more damn BL distortion than you can shake a stick at!! They will sound ok until you make the cone move more than about 2mm, then the ass sound comes back. 9500 a,b,c, and d series all sound better than the current e series, but on the meter are also quieter.

I've owned the eclipse alum 15s as well. 88150.4's and 8815.6 (avoid the .6's) to be exact. Excellent sound and minimal BL distortion. The newer Ti is also supposed to sound even more accurate. However the Ti Pro with the TC sounds 4hp motor will have the DD characteristic of sounding like doo doo.

Just trying to cast an illuminatory and fact filled post here...

ps - JL's subs ARE overpriced in my opinion....lol

 

Wow the scientific approch to sounds, I like that. Me I just read and pray. My 3500 was fairly accurate in its sound. But I could hardly afford to power it. I drop a 1000+ watts into it, and it wanted more. Plus on top of that no matter how much I put into power storage like blue tops and batcaps, my voltage still droped under heavy hitting. Like I said it before Im am JL racist, i dont like them at all. Like bumpin said its about matching your equpimnet. Your box has to be built right to sound right. None of this pre-formed boxes made by company x to fit all subs. Each sub requires difference space/ cube characteristics. For some reason the DD require some huge boxes. My 3500 DD which was one 12 vented box, is just slightly smalller than my vented box for my 2 15" RF t1s and Im desging it to manufactor specs

 

ONLY 4400? I totally thought you loved the DD's. Oops!

 

Any sub with that much power will most likley sufer a burn in the end. Most SPL subs get insanse wattage to thier coils and dont last that long. Thats why many compaines now are building changable magnets and rebuildable cones.

 

While I don't have 4400W, holy crap by the way, running to my subs. I've won competitions with JL setups and Rockford setups competing also...I'm happy with my Infinity's...I can't wait until I get my other 1500W hooked up!

Just my $.02,

Fink

 

I can only dream of running 4000 plus watts. I trully want to run about 1500 to each coil of my subs. So that 4 1500 watt amps. That equalls 4x being poor