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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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01 Tacoma lift thoughts

Ok guys im not gonna ask some stupid question like how big to fit xx tires, there are too many stupid threads already on here, i just finished the tread were some guy thought a body shop stole his stock gears and put in 2:71s

Anyways basically i have an 01 4wd ext v6 taco. I need tires soon and will replace the factory 265/70/16 tires with some 32x11.50x15 bfg AT tires. Now i know i will need about 2.5 inc up front to clear those tires.

My question is about method for achieving the 2.5 inc of FRONT lift:

METHOD 1- would be using the bilstien 5100 adjustable shocks and factory coil to gain the lift. What i don't like about this is that the stock coil will be preloaded more to gain the lift and will probably give me a crappy stiff ride and severely reduced up travel if they are cranked up to the 2.5 inc lift setting. I do not want these downsides since i actually use my truck off road and its a stiff lift is useless in any environment.

METHOD 2 -would use the bilstien 5100 shock with the collar all the way down at the 0 inc lift stock location. The lift would then come from what i just recently saw while searching online. Toytec sells 3 inc lift front coils by ebiach springs and i assume that by placing these 3 inc lift coils on a factory setting bilstien 5100 shock i will gain the 3 inc lift without losing up travel or having a severely stiff ride from excessive preload changing the spring rate. Am i correct in this?

It seems to me that method 2 is the best way to gain 2.5-3 inc of front lift, has anyone else run this setup and care to share their thoughts. Ive searched and just seem to come up with mall crawler drop bracket kits for posers, crappy spacer lifts, or all LT kits which i cant afford anytime soon.

Thanks for any help and sorry for the long post i wanted to be detailed in my explanation.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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shocks = lift?

I went with OME 882's because of the bumper weight but something similar will clear those 32's. Had rubbing with mine and stock springs, no issue now and it sits very nice.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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You got a lot more searching and reading to do

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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Im happy with the bilstien hight adjustable shocks but i used toytec 3'' lift coils in the front of my 01. So If you go with a lifted coil then you don't even need adjustable shocks, but they weren't much more $$. The down travel is reduced but not enough to worry about.
Plus your front end will have more ground clearence then other yotas with bracket lifts. Mine actually does better in real deep snow then tacos with 4'' lift.


I recently put f-150 springs in the rear and don't like them at all. Rides like donkey.
Im gonna go with deavers for the rear soon.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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Im happy with the bilstien hight adjustable shocks but i used toytec 3'' lift coils in the front of my 01. So If you go with a lifted coil then you don't even need adjustable shocks, but they weren't much more $$. The down travel is reduced but not enough to worry about.
Plus your front end will have more ground clearence then other yotas with bracket lifts. Mine actually does better in real deep snow then tacos with 4'' lift.


I recently put f-150 springs in the rear and don't like them at all. Rides like donkey.
Im gonna go with deavers for the rear soon.
Thank you, that's what i am planning on doing in method #2. How does the front end ride I assume its going to be stiffer then stock of course but it should ride better then a factory coil on max preload on an adjustable shock right? I like the bilstien 5100 shock which is why I'm going for it even though I won't need the adjustability since im going with a longer coil.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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I think it rides better then stock. A little firmer in a good way. Front end was kinda floaty before when I had a 3'' spacer lift with stock coil. And I have dual batteries, winch, and the ARB bumper, so lots of extra weight and no sagging with the new coils.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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SAS swap if you have the $.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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SAS swap if you have the $.
Whats that mean?
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Have Steve at Sonoran Steel set you up all the around. He hasn't done me wrong in regards to my Taco.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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SAS =Solid axle swap...tougher and more articulation.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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SAS =Solid axle swap...tougher and more articulation.
Whats articulation? Read my sig ya bunch of over-obviousers. Thats probably not even a word but you get it.

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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Sorry I thought the original poster was asking what a solid axle swap is...didn't see it was a diff person. Hard to notice on my phone.

I am hear to learn as well. With that being said should I be concerned about Sonoran Steel's products?
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by black_taco
Sorry I thought the original poster was asking what a solid axle swap is...didn't see it was a diff person. Hard to notice on my phone.

I am hear to learn as well. With that being said should I be concerned about Sonoran Steel's products?
Huh ?? I dont remember asking about a sas .... Yes I know what a solid axle is, read my Sig. I have a 1 ton k5 on 38s to play with.... In my original post I state I'm only looking to clear 32's why would i go through all that work and $ for such small tires on my dd?

Anyways I'm gonna go with the bilstien and 3 inc taller coil combo after that guys input. Does anyone see any issues with running a 15x10 rim ?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Not knocking that setup at all, but slow down and read up some more. Don't go on one guy's opinion on the internet. You can't go wrong with Bilstein from a quality standpoint, but you might also want to look into OME as an alternative. Frankly, I don't think you'll have trouble clearing 32s even with non-saggy stock suspension if you don't mind trimming a little plastic.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:40 AM
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I dunno, why would you go through any amount of trouble to run just 32s? The option I provided wouldn't be any more work than what you are already exploring.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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Also have you verified that you have clearance between brake components and that smaller 15" rim you speak of. I know some tacos came with 15" rims but I am not sure if there are larger brakes on some 16" wheel equipped trucks. Hopefully someone with a definitive answer can chime in on this.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:13 AM
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gk5 your on the right track with new coils and struts, you won't be disappointed with that setup. I have put 15'' chevy rims on my 01 and they were fine. Mine came with 16'' rims, and V6 so bigger brakes probably. Whats your budget for the rear lift looking like? New springs like deavers are the way to go but their like $600 for the set. And don't forget about ordering a diff drop kit for the front

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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And SAS'ing a DD is pretty darn pointless, especially for 32'' tires you would actually lose clearance and handling. Not to mention its about $5000 to do it right and only $1500ish for front coils, deaver leaves, diff drop, and shocks all around.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
Not knocking that setup at all, but slow down and read up some more. Don't go on one guy's opinion on the internet. You can't go wrong with Bilstein from a quality standpoint, but you might also want to look into OME as an alternative. Frankly, I don't think you'll have trouble clearing 32s even with non-saggy stock suspension if you don't mind trimming a little plastic.
Well I've used bilstien products before and am very happy with them which is why I'm going that route over the ome's which I have no experience with. I have 32s I can test fit but I'm sure they will have decent interference since they slightly rub on my freinds seqouia with a 1.5 front end lift.

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I dunno, why would you go through any amount of trouble to run just 32s? The option I provided wouldn't be any more work than what you are already exploring.
. Which option were u suggesting ? The sas ? If so I hope your jokeing about it being the same amount of work as swapping coil overs.

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gk5 your on the right track with new coils and struts, you won't be disappointed with that setup. I have put 15'' chevy rims on my 01 and they were fine. Mine came with 16'' rims, and V6 so bigger brakes probably. Whats your budget for the rear lift looking like? New springs like deavers are the way to go but their like $600 for the set. And don't forget about ordering a diff drop kit for the front
Honestly I've been thinking about swapping in a 64" spring pack from a late model Chevy 1/2t they should provide the lift, supple ride, added travel and at least the same payload capacity as the stockers, I just gotta find some decent take offs. Other wise I might just go with a spring pack from all pro or the like.... Deavers only if I came upon some extra $$. Thanks for the input. Did you notice the front diff drop actually making a difference in cv angles?

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And SAS'ing a DD is pretty darn pointless, especially for 32'' tires you would actually lose clearance and handling. Not to mention its about $5000 to do it right and only $1500ish for front coils, deaver leaves, diff drop, and shocks all around.
Yea seriously I don't think some people actually understand how involved a sas is when done correctly.

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