i have a 94 toyota p/u and its basically bone stock have done some weekend riding in it but now its not my daily driver i would like to start riding more and get into some rock crawling. i would like some opinions on if i should sink the money into the sas kit or sell it for an old school with a factory solid axle. any opinion will be helpful. im on a budget so not sure best route.

 

you might aswell do the coversion using a trailgear kit9the cheapest) since you already have the truck why go through the trouble of getting a used truck that might have a bunch of problems when you tear it down and i always get atached to my cars so i would like to stick with them as long as i can plus sas really aren't thant hard to perform just my 2 cents

 

Do you have the time the skills the tools to do the sas or will you need to have it done.

Depends also how long you want to spend looking for a truck of the vintage.

As you stated you are on a budget.

I am sure The Yota tech forum can offer lots of suggestions but in the end it is your call

 

^^^Good post.

Building a wheeler is expensive especially just getting into it. Wheel the IFS it will teach you more that any built wheeler. Will help you choose where to put your money. Don't get me wrong I love the SAS but I wheeled the IFS for a couple years. Believe me if you build up the IFS correctly you will impress people as its a total sleeper. So many things you can do before SAS that it is not even funny. Look at AxleIke's rig he wheels the same rocks that SAS trucks do, many on here have well built IFS rigs that are wheeled.

Just my honest $0.02s

 

Thought i posted my post.
I agree with muddpigg.
Check out Axleike's thread. The man completely re-invents the front IFS steering, and makes it bulletproof.

The main problem with IFS rigs is the flex, though.
If you can get a 4" bracket lift, then you can have it setup like 87hillbillyoter and have no bumpstops, so that you get mad stuffage.

 

"Stuffage" did you really say "Stuffage" thats great man I love it. Well I can say I am having a blast with my IFS and I cant justify the cost of the sick SAS kits out there. I can't do the shop work required, but if I could I guess I would do the swap. I think you can get your self in enough trouble with the IFS that you wont even need the SAS.

 

wow you guys are quick im behind. yea im leaning towards the ifs for now just dont have the money and no i cant do the work myself. i think i could figure it out but i have no welder or torch so... question tho if i lock the front with a detroit locker can it be removed and used in the sas if i later decide to do that or is that money gone?

 

and yea i hate to get rid of my truck i just rebuilt the engine about 60,000 miles ago so would hate to get a truck with 200,000 on it.

 

Wheel what you got. Wheel your big wheel and upgrade as you can afford it. "Budget" is a useless word in this hobby/sport.

:wabbit2:

 

no you cant put a locker in the front of a ifs then use it with a sas..
but you can the rear.. it can be used front to back of a s.a.s rig..

if its just a weekend warrior id sell it get a 22r / e sfa rig but thats me...

if your budget consious there is always the suzuki samurai
seriously stock for stock there hard to beat and reliable.

 

Get the rear locker. Youll be amazed where you can go with just that.

Why do you want a Detroit? Dont get me wrong, great choice, but a little pricey if your on a budget. Aussie lockers arnt bar either, and they are only about half the price.

Search around this site. There is a lot of good information on here.

 

wheel it stock. get a taller tire. wheel that til you are a more capable driver than the truck then get a locker and armor and wheel til your more capable then that. then get a bud built cross member for better clearance and wheel it then. youll become a very capable driver and all these mods will make your rig a real brute if down the road you decide you want even more and are capable of handling a sas rig. i build my truck on a student budget so its slow but every time i upgrade i notice a huge difference. imo unless youve been weekend wheeling for a LONG time you probably arent ready for a sas rig. Ive been wheeling my 93 for 4 years on weekends and now its on 33's with a locker and armor and soon bud built cross member and i know i still couldnt use a sas rig to its full potential. that will be down the road

 

Realiability is a relative term. We are talking 20 year old vehicles.

 

Tell me about it....stupid tc..........

 

What going on with you freakin TC and oil leak?

 

Yea I think I will wheel my ifs for a while and build up other things on the truck. Have been against it because all my buddy's are the Jack it up big tires kinda guys with open diffs. Thinking that's the way. Not my style

 

These are the same guys whose jaws drop when they get past by a little yota ifs on the trail. A pics is worth a 1000 words, I always got my kids to wave as we would go by.

 

if its a weekend warrior, weld the rear end, do a little trimmin on the fenders and run some 34x10.50 swampers, or add a BL do some more trimmin and stuff Q78's in there.

 

I love those guys, usually Jeeps. I love when I see a Cherokee with 4 pairs of off road lights, 38 inch tires, stickers all over it and on the stock Dana 35 and no off road permit any where. What would you call an off road ricer?

 

Wheel the IFS while saving for a SAS swap and once the IFS finally falls apart, buy the SAS wheeling my IFS definitely taught me a few things...