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Steering Rack Bushings: Done, but I have a Q!

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Steering Rack Bushings: Done, but I have a Q!

First off, big thanks to both WabFab / Wabbit for getting me the CORRECT kit, even when I goofed the order up. Excellent customer service!!

Wow...what a 'fun' time I had getting the old bushings out! The bushing that gives everybody trouble, the center mount, was actually pretty easy after cutting the lower lip away from the metal sleeve (...and figuring out that the bolt is removed from ontop of the mount...I spent 10 minutes trying to break loose the welded nut from the crossmember ). I used a variation of the 'socket' method to get the center mount out; I used a socket and a c-clamp.



The drivers side mount was a major f'ing PITA to remove. Lots of cutting, pulling, gouging, cussing, and it finally came out. Install of all the new bushings was easy with minimal fuss. I torqued them down to the specified values, and in this, is my question.

Are the bushing supposed to 'squish' out of the mounts a little bit? I don't know if it's easily seen in the picture, but the driver side bushing is slightly squished out of the mount...sorta like a muffin top, if that makes sense.



Is that normal??

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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For the drivers side bushings, I used a c-clamp to press the new bushings flush...


After...


Torqued to spec...
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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I just ordered this week from wabfab, the same thing. How long did it take to get yours in? I havent heard back from them yet.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rocket
For the drivers side bushings, I used a c-clamp to press the new bushings flush...
Hey, whaddaya know, great minds think alike because I used the c-clamp to get my drivers side installed too!

Thanks for the pics, mine look squished, exactly like yours!

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I just ordered this week from wabfab, the same thing. How long did it take to get yours in? I havent heard back from them yet.
Ordered & paid via PayPal on 9/20, Wabbit found my error on 9/22, corrected part shipped on 9/24 (with tracking #), arrived on 9/29. Nine days from ordering to in my hands, thats pretty dang good in my book!
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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I just did mine last weekend. You're correct, what an effin' bitch to get the center and drivers side bushings out. I ended cutting the ends off with a razor knife and with a combination of PB blaster, channel locks, and a c-clamp, I got them out.

It looks like its ok that the drivers side "squishes" out a bit. I was wondering the same thing as mine did it too...
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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All I did was heat up the metal sleeve with a torch(any kind of heat would work), and it melts the rubber around it....slide out metal sleeve. The bushings come out easy after that!
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Yeah, I had a heck of a time as well. I ended up melting them out with a torch... smelly burning rubber goodness... ;/
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Wow, I ordered rack bushings from another online vendor. 6 weeks later, they are still "out of stock". Guess I screwed up?

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:30 AM
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We do have these in stock guys and unless it is the weekend usually ship the next day. I saw your order Sabre and it will ship Monday.

I have changed a few of these myself now and yes, it is a fun job for sure. Lots of dirt, grease, grime and flowery speech later it will be done, but it sure does make a big difference in steering feel and response IMO.

I could not see the last two pictures, red Xs, but yes the bushings do get a bit muffin headed when you first torque them down, but should mellow out over time.

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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Thanks wabbit.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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i just installed these poly on mine this weekend. the center was the most pain to get back into the slot.


i got a question, i was trying to tighten the drivers side mount, but i dind't tighten it all the way, the bushing gets very very squished.

it's more than in you pic, am i supposed to keep tigthening? it's still pretty loose

thanks
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:10 AM
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I'd say keep tightening until the proper torque spec is reached.

In my case, I was so exhausted, I couldn't get the bolts torqued to the exact specs, instead I just tightened them until it felt like my arms were going to tear out of their sockets. Apparently this wasn't good enough (duh), and I've got jumpy steering again. I need to go back under and hit everything with the torque wrench.

But back to the question; I'd say unless they're damn near completely popping out of the hole, just keep tightening and let them mushroom out.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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did anyone do the upper control arm? How did you get those bushings out? Does that center bracket press out? what size bolt and threads are on the ends of that center piece that attaches the upper control arm to the truck. When I removed mine the dimples in the ends that the factory uses to hold the nut on trashed my threads, and I need to re tap and die the threads on the bolt end and nut on the rear side of the uca bolt.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MunkeyTX
I'd say keep tightening until the proper torque spec is reached.

In my case, I was so exhausted, I couldn't get the bolts torqued to the exact specs, instead I just tightened them until it felt like my arms were going to tear out of their sockets. Apparently this wasn't good enough (duh), and I've got jumpy steering again. I need to go back under and hit everything with the torque wrench.

But back to the question; I'd say unless they're damn near completely popping out of the hole, just keep tightening and let them mushroom out.
hahah yea mine still has that slight wabble (sometimes) with slight knock. grrr. yea i gotta torque to spec but i used a 1/2" really long breaker bar to losen and tighten the bolts. made life simple. lol. but i was still tired from loosening and tightening the bolts to get the center lined up. lol. so i know what u mean. ha


thanks for the advice
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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(...and figuring out that the bolt is removed from ontop of the mount...I spent 10 minutes trying to break loose the welded nut from the crossmember ).
Glad to hear I wasn't the only one that did that... I failed to use a flash light to look at the bolt on the bottom before trying to break it (and ended up rounding it in the process).

Mine is still not done, I had some 'help' from some friends while I was out picking up a tool and got so frustrated with the 'easy' part, my truck is sitting in the garage waiting for me to go fight with getting the old bushings out. Thanks for the pix of how you got stuff put back in. Hopefully I can avoid using the mini-torch method of getting the old stuff out.

How did you all get the top/vertical bolt torqued? I have yet to figure out how to get the big torque wrench up there in between the bell housing and the bolt, let alone enough room to work the thing.

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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my old bushing came out very easily, i just sprayed wd40. then i just hammered them out with a long socket touching on the metal sleve of the bushing. they just came out.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Actually, the part I was dreading the most was the easiest. C-clamps and sockets to remove, c-clamps and washers to install.. Got it all put back together now.. just 2 last bolts for the rag joint I'm looking up the torque specs for now and I'm done.

I finally found an angle to get my big torque wrench in to get that vertical bolt at 123 ft. lbs. I had a few choice words for the engineer that crammed so much in such a tight spot that it left about 2* to turn a wrench up there.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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yea they could have put that verticle bolt upside down or left a nut on it. but na that would make total sense... lol
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