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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Help with 3VZE ignition timing

My car has being stubling when i accelerate and has been overheating like crazy... i was reading the haynes manual and it says incorrect timing... When i adjusted it the first time i went 10 degees but im not sure if i put it BTDC or if i over advanced it.. So im wondering with side of the 0 its supposed to be on if im standing in front of my truck.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4RrunnerJ
My car has being stubling when i accelerate and has been overheating like crazy... i was reading the haynes manual and it says incorrect timing... When i adjusted it the first time i went 10 degees but im not sure if i put it BTDC or if i over advanced it.. So im wondering with side of the 0 its supposed to be on if im standing in front of my truck.
if your looking down at the gauge its past the zero to 10 going to the right.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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ok so its 10 degrees to the right of the zero... and if i were looking at from inside my truck it would be on the drivers side right?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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and also i think my knock sensor wire got cut because the wire is just hanging over the head and im reading about it from other people and judging by the location from were the wire is coming from, im thinking it is the knock sensor, and im not sure if it is a ground or if it actually goes to a power source
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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ok so its 10 degrees to the right of the zero... and if i were looking at from inside my truck it would be on the drivers side right?
YES, thats right
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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and also i think my knock sensor wire got cut because the wire is just hanging over the head and im reading about it from other people and judging by the location from were the wire is coming from, im thinking it is the knock sensor, and im not sure if it is a ground or if it actually goes to a power source
THE WIRE SHOULD COME UP OUT OF THE LEFT, DRIVERS SIDE HEAD ABOUT 5 INCHS FROM THE BACK... sorry bout the caps im at work
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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ok, ill post a picture of it right now of what im actually looking at... and the caps arent bugging me its all good
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Here the pic of the wire..hopefully u can see it
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 4RrunnerJ
Here the pic of the wire..hopefully u can see it
YEP, KNOCK SENSOR WIRE. can you get to the other end of it to solder It together?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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well im not sure where the other end is.... is it on the head?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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well im not sure where the other end is.... is it on the head?
IT HAS A PATHWAY THROUGHT THE HEAD AND INTAKE MANIFOLD ABOUT WHERE YOUR FINGER IS
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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just about where your middle finger is in that pic
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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ok.. so do u think i will have to pull of the manifold to get to the wire.... and also where is the knock sensor even located cuz i have no clue
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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you will probably wanna take the intake off (10 bolts i think) so that you can get a good connection for the wire, before reinstall do ohms check on wire to insure continuity. you actually need to fix the wire before trying to correctly time the engine, cuz with a broken/malfunctioning knock sensor/wire that will retard your timing to prevent worse things from happening. my truck is 91 though

im actually doing same thing to my truck, just waiting on knock sensor to arrive

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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10 degrees to the right (if looking down at the engine, so drivers side) would be retarding the timing. You are telling him to go the wrong way.

It needs to be at 5` BTDC with the check connector short circuited at idle.

If you retard the timing like Anthony told you, it will run worse.

Study this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_timing

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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YES, thats right
i meant to hit the quote, but NO thats wrong. See my above post
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
10 degrees to the right (if looking down at the engine, so drivers side) would be retarding the timing. You are telling him to go the wrong way.

It needs to be at 5` BTDC with the check connector short circuited at idle.

If you retard the timing like Anthony told you, it will run worse.

Study this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_timing
this is correct, im soooooo sorry, i was at work and read this this morning, i was wrong and deathcougar is perfectly correct, and dont forget to use the jumper wire on the diag port also.....
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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lol just found this pic, felt it was fitting since I posted so late at night:



haha Cheers!
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
lol just found this pic, felt it was fitting since I posted so late at night:



haha Cheers!
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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ok thanks... ill c what i can do, ill probably take it off tomarrow and ill let u guys know whats up
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