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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Has anyone tried this motor?

I saw this on ebay for $1650 shipped. It's all new parts including the block, with no core. Sounds too good to be true. I called the guy and he says the motor is "assembled" in California, and that the parts are ordered from all over the world. I couldn't pin him down on what comes from where.

My head gasket went and at 186K I've decided on a rebuild ($1100 if the block, head, and crank are rebuildable), but a NEW motor for $1650 seems the way to go if it is any good. Has anyone tried one of these? I'm afraid it might be some Chinese piece of crap.

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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sounds sketchy
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Did you ask him about a warranty when you talked to him? Any company worthwhile will offer a warranty of some type.

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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I would be a little sketched about that too......

Go with someone that has a reputation and/or references
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Thats a good price for sure. Probably all CHINESE parts... he does have over 900 transactions....
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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x2! Like mentioned already, he probibly uses inferior (cheaper) chinese parts. Like the saying goes, when it looks to good to be true, it usually is.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rdlsz24
Did you ask him about a warranty when you talked to him? Any company worthwhile will offer a warranty of some type.

Rob

I just called them again and the warranty is 12/12,000. I talked to a different guy this time, and he said that they changed the original 22re blueprints to address the weak points in the head and block. He said that they went to China to hire a company to do the manufacturing. Supposedly the company makes Pruis heads for Toyota. He also claims that they only have a .5% return rate on the motors.

The local rebuild will come with a 3/50,000 warranty. And, I won't have to ship the motor to California.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Go and check out sunwest engines in medical lake washinton. He built me a big cam 22re,.20 over,new everything,pistons,head,timing cover,valves,rocker assem,oil pump,gasket set,all steel timing guides,new everything,no core delivered to the east coast 1625.00. Three year 30,000 mile warranty.Its a screamer.They will talk to you anytime you call,email you right away His specialty is yota engines.I've had mine for 18 months now.I see he has gone up on price.But he stands behind his engines
www.sunwestautomotiveengines.com

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Go and check out sunwest engines in medical lake washinton. He built me a big cam 22re,.20 over,new everything,pistons,head,timing cover,valves,rocker assem,oil pump,gasket set,all steel timing guides,new everything,no core delivered to the east coast 1625.00. Three year 30,000 mile warranty.Its a screamer.They will talk to you anytime you call,email you right away His specialty is yota engines.I've had mine for 18 months now.I see he has gone up on price.But he stands behind his engines
www.sunwestautomotiveengines.com
Sounds good, but if I get a rebuild, I'd prefer to keep my money local. There are some very good machine shops here in town. I was only considering this new motor because it is new, and I don't know anywhere else to get a new motor for a good price. (The stealership wants $2050 for a reman short block, and it's not even new).
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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I found another forum that this company sponsers (ttora) and they post thier url and phone number whenever someone makes a post about motor troubles, but the people over there seem to be ignoring them.

Due to the fact that these guys are so unknown, I think I'm going to have to pass on the motor and just have the work done locally.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ThomasTedder
I found another forum that this company sponsers (ttora) and they post thier url and phone number whenever someone makes a post about motor troubles, but the people over there seem to be ignoring them.

Due to the fact that these guys are so unknown, I think I'm going to have to pass on the motor and just have the work done locally.
From the sound of it, you are doing the right thing. Having problems with a new engine and trying to get support from a company half a continent away would probably be a nightmare.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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I'd go woth the sunwest reman. No replacement for experience
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Check with mike,he will exchange your block,ship him the core.I bought mine right out.No core.With the new head,performance cam and Valves,No one could beat his price.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by blueyoda
I'd go woth the sunwest reman. No replacement for experience
I've decided to keep it local. The shop I'm using is the guy that most of the dealerships around here use. Incredible reputation, backed by a very good warranty.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 06:11 AM
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Are you tunning up? This is your chance to get a strong reliable motor beyond oem restrictions.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by blueyoda
Are you tunning up? This is your chance to get a strong reliable motor beyond oem restrictions.

Check out engnbldrs low end "crawler" cams
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by blueyoda
Are you tunning up? This is your chance to get a strong reliable motor beyond oem restrictions.
What do you recommend?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtoyboy
Check out engnbldrs low end "crawler" cams
I am having trouble locating that on his site. I tried calling him @ (503) 257-7947, but the call wouldn't go through.

Is this just an RV cam or something? My machine shop will sell me parts for barely over cost (a NEW bare head would only be $189), so I may be able to get a better deal through him without waiting.

Is a cam the usual upgrade?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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A cam is a great start but porting and polishing are also very good. Bigger valves will make a difference but you have to remember what goes in must come out so headers and exaust have to be on the list.
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