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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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anyone one have any info on these nice sweet axles?? i wanna see how much they are cause they give you 4in of lift with any mods any ideas on where i can get some or how much they are thanks guys
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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just find some unimog axles, it will probably be the easiest way to go.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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yeah i just watched xtream 4x4 and they had a set on there and i just wanted to know what were and what not thats about it
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Are you familiar with google? Wikipedia perhaps?
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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anyone one have any info on these nice sweet axles?? i wanna see how much they are cause they give you 4in of lift with any mods any ideas on where i can get some or how much they are thanks guys

????

Um

BTW - Hummer's have portal "hubs"...

Normally an axle goes to the "center" of the hub.
So the BEST clearance one can have is about 1/2 the height of the tire minus some amount (2" or so?) for the thickness of the axles and the bearings etc.

A PORTAL hub puts GEARS in the hub.
Thus the axle goes to a gear which then drives another gear on the axle stub.

Thus is ALOT of "complexity".
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It gains you a few inches in axle clearance.

A portal axle is heavy (gears) expensive (lots o parts) and thus not very common.
Unimog in the most prevalent solid axle portal axle
Hummer is a "common" IFS/IRS portal "hub".
I have heard of a Volvo axle as well - not sure where it is from.

If you have to ask - you cant afford it.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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thanks man and yes i did use google and i didnt really find anything usefull thats why i posted here
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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i just saw it on xtreme 4x4 too, thats gonna be a pretty sweet nissan. first time ive ever heard of them but they looked awesome, seems like the best option for gaing ground clearance, if your rich
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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yeah thats why i asked about them lol they seam like they will strip or brake easily though just by the way they look but i was just asking thats all



and kinda a hi-jacking here

where can i get the transfercase belly mount that gives you like 4-6inches of under belly clearince too€? i think its the marlin twin case mount but not sure any ideas?
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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heres a portal dealer
http://www.exaxt.ca/axle.asp
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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heres a portal dealer
http://www.exaxt.ca/axle.asp
Those look pretty good but for the money I'd pick up a set of Rockwell top loaders from a 2 1/2 ton truck at a military auction and have some left to play with. Just my opinion.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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The ones they're using on Xtreme are Portal-tek ends for a "normal" axle.

You're over $6k for the kit:
http://www.portal-tek.com/quote.html

4Mogger spent about $20k on his unimog axles, but there was a lot of custom work narrowing them and integrating central tire inflation (I think that price includes the custom rims too)

Long story short, if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it.

Rockwells are counter to the idea of increased ground clearance ...

For a more cost effective alternative, you should look at a Spidertrax or Diamond housing - those will gain you almost an inch for <$1000.

As for tucking the drivetrain up, search on "drivetrain lift" or "flat belly" on here and 4Crawler

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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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they seem like they will strip or break easily though just by the way they look but i was just asking thats all
They wont strip or break any easier than any other Full Floater design will. The gears tend to be straight cut as they are industrial in design - NVH isnt going to be a top priority objective on a portal...
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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budbuilt cross member will gain you clearence
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
The ones they're using on Xtreme are Portal-tek ends for a "normal" axle.

You're over $6k for the kit:
http://www.portal-tek.com/quote.html

Long story short, if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it.

TRU DAT GUYS!

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budbuilt cross member will gain you clearence
Meaning w/out Portals and a heck-uva lot cheaper. Look into BudBuilt first. THEN Portals.... Like TC said. If ya have to ask. Either you are independently wealthy or... well heck Hire me to come out and build it for ya!!!

And lastly... While yes Jessie and Ian know their shizzy... Portals aren't exactly a common man's wheeling material... They are incredibly complex and expensive. For those of you who can afford it... Awesome! For the rest of us... well I'd rather get some diamond axles an SAS, a 3.4, oh and an exo cage.....

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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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well if your really wanna come over and help molly i have a 84 front axle just waiting to get cleaned rebuilt and installed but i dont think you really wanna drive that far to stay the night here and get eating by moquitos do ya? lol but yeah im so not going with them they seam a lil to much money so i got a 50 dollor axle and i wanna put it in like right now lol and since you sased your rig why not right lets do a yotatech sleep over whats you guys think???? lol


and yeah im doing the budlight belly thingy when i do my clutch im getting that to just cause im taking the crossmember off anyways so why not right and its only 260 shipped so why not aye?
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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well if your really wanna come over and help molly i have a 84 front axle just waiting to get cleaned rebuilt and installed but i dont think you really wanna drive that far to stay the night here and get eating by moquitos do ya?

and yeah im doing the budlight belly thingy when i do my clutch im getting that to just cause im taking the crossmember off anyways so why not right and its only 260 shipped so why not aye?
Now that's Mah Guy! If I were anywhere NEAR WI (Like Minnesota, Illinois, or Michigan I would so MAKE THE TRIP FOR YA!

Hell, buy my plane ticket and I'll be your axle/gear oil grease lady for a whole week! Troy will even sign off on it!!!


Sorry didn't mean to be an ass about portals. It is just that I have seen 'em in action (as well as the Hummer gear reduction versions) and for that price, I'm not impressed. Ask me about the time that a Buggy with portals blew a R&P in Moab and I jumped underneath in the sand for 2 hours to stem the flow of gear oil in sand??? Towed that brat off of Moab Rim for 4 miles.....

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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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well i dont think the plane ticket is that much what if i come and pick you up with my truck lol but this might wait till i go tall the parts first then we can go to town on this bad boy lol
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Fair enough! I mean if I am gonna trash portals (which I'm not in general) but for the $$$ there is so much more one can do ya know? So I'll pimp myself out to help before ya spend $30K on Portals and the whole set-up! (Oh and that fee includes getting my 3.4 running in Tippy BTW)
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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well with a 3.4l i belive you can get a safc to work on them and i can tune like crazy on them things lol but you should check out my new toy post on here and how much i paid for her lol
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by just a 22re
When sending your wife down the road with a gas can, it is impolite to ask her to bring back beer.

Is it really? What if it's for me? (The wife??) LOL

Cheers all you portal crazy kids!
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