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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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3vz or 3vze

hey guys i am picking up another 3slow for my runner and i was wondering what is the difference between a 3vz and a 3vze, i have a 88 runner and i want to get the same motor. i know of a jdm 3vz i can get and just want to make sure that it will work, I know i will have to swap intake and some other things around.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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come on I was told that you guys knew your stuff.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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a 3vz is a 3vze... except someone forgot the e..
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by toy power
a 3vz is a 3vze... except someone forgot the e..
X2, just short for 3vze. Just like 5vz is short for 5vzfe. Now if you're wondering what the differnce is between a 3vzfe and a 3vze that's different.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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typically, the 'e' in toyota motor codes signifies electronic fuel injection. Since there was no carburated 3.0 V6, they are all technically '3VZE,' as apposed to 22R and 22RE, which are two different things.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nix4x4
typically, the 'e' in toyota motor codes signifies electronic fuel injection. Since there was no carburated 3.0 V6, they are all technically '3VZE,' as apposed to 22R and 22RE, which are two different things.
22r and 22R-e are the same motor, just a different fuel delivery system.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I believe he was referencing the fuel delivery system.

btw, if you have an 88 truck, you will need an 88 motor, different mounts than the 89+. And as for those JDM motors, I will not even get into what a bad idea that is, but suffice to say DONT USE THEM!! The mileage is a general guess based on average mileage. Read the fine print, you will see what I mean.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
I believe he was referencing the fuel delivery system.

btw, if you have an 88 truck, you will need an 88 motor, different mounts than the 89+. And as for those JDM motors, I will not even get into what a bad idea that is, but suffice to say DONT USE THEM!! The mileage is a general guess based on average mileage. Read the fine print, you will see what I mean.

now you got me all worried, i have been stewing over spending $1700 on a jdm motor trans and tcase for about 2 weeks now and just when i decided to go for it I hear this, my buddy who is a toyota mechanic said he would rather me get a jdm motor than these rebuilt motors out there due to the fact that most of these companies that rebuild these motors dont use oem toyota parts and they tend to fail due to the tolerences not being as close as they need to b e.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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now you got me all worried, i have been stewing over spending $1700 on a jdm motor trans and tcase for about 2 weeks now and just when i decided to go for it I hear this, my buddy who is a toyota mechanic said he would rather me get a jdm motor than these rebuilt motors out there due to the fact that most of these companies that rebuild these motors dont use oem toyota parts and they tend to fail due to the tolerences not being as close as they need to b e.
I wouldn't go cheap rebuild, but some companies out there do use high quality parts. Between JDM and cheap rebuild, you are taking the same risk IMHO. Try local used parts. Many used engines locally are low miles and tested, not to mention coming with similar warranties to the rebuilds.

Who knows tho, you may get a good JDM engine. Sometimes they are taken care of in Japan, but with oil as expensive as it is over there, its just too expensive for some.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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what is the difference between 3VZE and 3VZFE? i have always wondered this.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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3VZE is a 3.0l V6 traditional mount truck/4Runner engine.

3VZFE is a 3,0L Transverse mount car engine found in 92-93 camrys and es300's.

3VZFE is DOHC, and a Hemi style engine, where the truck engine is not. It was also 185hp, where the truck engine was 145 (LAME!!)
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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btw more info can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_VZ_engine#3VZ-FE
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Thanks DC, good information to know.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
3VZE is a 3.0l V6 traditional mount truck/4Runner engine.

3VZFE is a 3,0L Transverse mount car engine found in 92-93 camrys and es300's.

3VZFE is DOHC, and a Hemi style engine, where the truck engine is not. It was also 185hp, where the truck engine was 145 (LAME!!)
The 3vzfe is a great motor. I had a camry wagon with that engine-wow. If you can make it work, drop the 3slow and go with that.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Without a lot of fab, not to mention figuring out a way to make it work, there really isn't a way to make the FE fit into the truck/4runner. The only part the two engines share are the main bearings.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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3eeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeEeeeeeee eeeeeee
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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3eeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeEeeeeeee eeeeeee
What was the point of THAT?
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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I do not now about the 89' fitting into the 88' but i do know that the 95'
3VZE will fit into and 88' 3VZE because I did it.... Is the 89 mounts different then the 88 was it a rouge year I do not know please inform me...?
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Shame the 3vzFE is next to impossible to make fit 185 (188, dunno if different measured or what, some claim 190) and 194 tq..that sucker moved my old 93 camry very well..

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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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I do not now about the 89' fitting into the 88' but i do know that the 95'
3VZE will fit into and 88' 3VZE because I did it.... Is the 89 mounts different then the 88 was it a rouge year I do not know please inform me...?
The 95 will fit the 88, but not vise versa
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