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89sammy 11-09-2007 06:31 PM

3vz or 3vze
 
hey guys i am picking up another 3slow for my runner and i was wondering what is the difference between a 3vz and a 3vze, i have a 88 runner and i want to get the same motor. i know of a jdm 3vz i can get and just want to make sure that it will work, I know i will have to swap intake and some other things around.

89sammy 11-11-2007 07:00 AM

come on I was told that you guys knew your stuff.

toy power 11-11-2007 07:03 AM

a 3vz is a 3vze... except someone forgot the e..

mt_goat 11-11-2007 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by toy power (Post 50665788)
a 3vz is a 3vze... except someone forgot the e..

X2, just short for 3vze. Just like 5vz is short for 5vzfe. Now if you're wondering what the differnce is between a 3vzfe and a 3vze that's different. :D

nix4x4 11-11-2007 09:56 AM

typically, the 'e' in toyota motor codes signifies electronic fuel injection. Since there was no carburated 3.0 V6, they are all technically '3VZE,' as apposed to 22R and 22RE, which are two different things.

skife 11-11-2007 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by nix4x4 (Post 50665924)
typically, the 'e' in toyota motor codes signifies electronic fuel injection. Since there was no carburated 3.0 V6, they are all technically '3VZE,' as apposed to 22R and 22RE, which are two different things.

22r and 22R-e are the same motor, just a different fuel delivery system.

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 02:22 PM

I believe he was referencing the fuel delivery system.

btw, if you have an 88 truck, you will need an 88 motor, different mounts than the 89+. And as for those JDM motors, I will not even get into what a bad idea that is, but suffice to say DONT USE THEM!! The mileage is a general guess based on average mileage. Read the fine print, you will see what I mean.

89sammy 11-11-2007 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by DeathCougar (Post 50666121)
I believe he was referencing the fuel delivery system.

btw, if you have an 88 truck, you will need an 88 motor, different mounts than the 89+. And as for those JDM motors, I will not even get into what a bad idea that is, but suffice to say DONT USE THEM!! The mileage is a general guess based on average mileage. Read the fine print, you will see what I mean.


now you got me all worried, i have been stewing over spending $1700 on a jdm motor trans and tcase for about 2 weeks now and just when i decided to go for it I hear this, my buddy who is a toyota mechanic said he would rather me get a jdm motor than these rebuilt motors out there due to the fact that most of these companies that rebuild these motors dont use oem toyota parts and they tend to fail due to the tolerences not being as close as they need to b:bang: e.

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by 89sammy (Post 50666167)
now you got me all worried, i have been stewing over spending $1700 on a jdm motor trans and tcase for about 2 weeks now and just when i decided to go for it I hear this, my buddy who is a toyota mechanic said he would rather me get a jdm motor than these rebuilt motors out there due to the fact that most of these companies that rebuild these motors dont use oem toyota parts and they tend to fail due to the tolerences not being as close as they need to b:bang: e.

I wouldn't go cheap rebuild, but some companies out there do use high quality parts. Between JDM and cheap rebuild, you are taking the same risk IMHO. Try local used parts. Many used engines locally are low miles and tested, not to mention coming with similar warranties to the rebuilds.

Who knows tho, you may get a good JDM engine. Sometimes they are taken care of in Japan, but with oil as expensive as it is over there, its just too expensive for some.

881stGenRunner 11-11-2007 04:24 PM

what is the difference between 3VZE and 3VZFE? i have always wondered this.

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 05:46 PM

3VZE is a 3.0l V6 traditional mount truck/4Runner engine.

3VZFE is a 3,0L Transverse mount car engine found in 92-93 camrys and es300's.

3VZFE is DOHC, and a Hemi style engine, where the truck engine is not. It was also 185hp, where the truck engine was 145 (LAME!!)

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 05:48 PM

btw more info can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_VZ_engine#3VZ-FE

881stGenRunner 11-11-2007 05:52 PM

Thanks DC, good information to know.

Wife's 4runner 11-11-2007 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by DeathCougar (Post 50666312)
3VZE is a 3.0l V6 traditional mount truck/4Runner engine.

3VZFE is a 3,0L Transverse mount car engine found in 92-93 camrys and es300's.

3VZFE is DOHC, and a Hemi style engine, where the truck engine is not. It was also 185hp, where the truck engine was 145 (LAME!!)

The 3vzfe is a great motor. I had a camry wagon with that engine-wow. If you can make it work, drop the 3slow and go with that.

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 06:02 PM

Without a lot of fab, not to mention figuring out a way to make it work, there really isn't a way to make the FE fit into the truck/4runner. The only part the two engines share are the main bearings.

Albert.G 11-11-2007 06:03 PM

3eeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeEeeeeeee eeeeeee

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Albert.G (Post 50666330)
3eeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeEeeeeeee eeeeeee

What was the point of THAT? :pop:

nate V 11-11-2007 08:36 PM

DeathCougar
I do not now about the 89' fitting into the 88' but i do know that the 95'
3VZE will fit into and 88' 3VZE because I did it.... Is the 89 mounts different then the 88 was it a rouge year I do not know please inform me...?

CJM 11-11-2007 08:41 PM

Shame the 3vzFE is next to impossible to make fit 185 (188, dunno if different measured or what, some claim 190) and 194 tq..that sucker moved my old 93 camry very well..

DeathCougar 11-11-2007 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by nate V (Post 50666486)
DeathCougar
I do not now about the 89' fitting into the 88' but i do know that the 95'
3VZE will fit into and 88' 3VZE because I did it.... Is the 89 mounts different then the 88 was it a rouge year I do not know please inform me...?

The 95 will fit the 88, but not vise versa


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