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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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how do i loosen these damn bolts????

I'm doing a HG replacement, and i'm in the middle of tearing the engine down.
It's a 91 pickup 3.0 3vze.
I need to take off the CAMSHAFT timing pulleys. My friend fabbed up a tool to hold the pulley in place with a really long handle. We have tried to loosen the bolts, but those stupid things are NOT coming loose!!!
is there anything that i'm missing?
is the bolt reverse threaded?


how do i get this damn thing off????
it sucks that i've gotten this far and i'm stuck because of two bolts.

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Throw any PB blaster on there? An how long is your friends breaker bar. You might need something longer for more torque.

More importantly... What the heck are you doing up so late replacing headers?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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fire wrench?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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i WAS trying to get the headgasket done before this weekend...
but i was way wrong on that one. hopefully i'll have it done by next weekend.
oh, and our handles are surely long enough. around 4 feet lol. we actually broke an extension and stripped a socket.

what is pb blaster and where can i get it?

what is a fire wrench?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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How about some good old elbow grease? And scream"Arnold!!!" while you try turning it...

But like Molly said, soak it a couple times with PB Blaster.

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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No offense guys, but dont waste your time with PB blaster. YOu could soak it for days, and it wont soak down to the threads.

Put socket on it, rest the driver/breaker bar against the frame and blip the starter. It will loosen the bolt right up.

btw it is NOT reverse threaded
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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btw you said crankshaft. Did you mean camshaft? There is only one pulley on the crank, while each camshaft has one (two total)
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcerwing

what is a fire wrench?
torch
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Put socket on it, rest the driver/breaker bar against the frame and blip the starter. It will loosen the bolt right up.
I think that's for the crank pulley... although that tip works very slick.

Edit: Deathcougar corrected this already.

I took a 12mm socket and an extension and placed that on one of the bolt heads on the timing belt cover... through a spoke of the wheel on the chamshaft sprocket... if you can visualize that.

Anyway, that wedged the sprocket still and allowed me to use on heck of a cheater bar to get the bolts out. As I describe it, you need two people. One to block the sprocket, and one to turn the stubborn bolt.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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For the camshaft, follow the same guidelines for taking off the crank bolt, only dont blip the starter, just let it rest against the frame, and loosen the cam bolts before taking off the timing belt. The timing belt will hold the setup still, and the socket/breaker will hold the crank still
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
btw you said crankshaft. Did you mean camshaft? There is only one pulley on the crank, while each camshaft has one (two total)
yeah, i meant camshaft.


i guess we are gonna have to try to soak it with pb blaster, then just yell "ARNOLD!!"
we were yelling "MARTHA!!"
maybe that's why it wouldn't come loose
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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then just yell "ARNOLD!!"
we were yelling "MARTHA!!" maybe that's why it wouldn't come loose
If you really want them to come off... yell "THIS... IS.... SPARTA!!!!" and then dramatically kick your breaker bar in a counter clockwise direction.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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If you really want them to come off... yell "THIS... IS.... SPARTA!!!!" and then dramatically kick your breaker bar in a counter clockwise direction.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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I can send you the 300 DVD if that would help. Like D.C. said PB blaster prolly won't get in there but it might be the nudge you need. TC and I have have great luck with soaking stuck stuff with PB Blaster 4 times over a day and then the next day breaking it loose. You can get PB blaster at any automotive or hardware store.


Or you can just buy me a plane ticket and I'll fly up there and fix it for ya...

Yeah right! LOL
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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CyMon... how did man even attempt to exist before YouTube???

Sweet video.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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EDIT: My bad, didn't see the change in the post. I guess my advice is patience. Lots of it.

Hope this helps

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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rowdy235
As mentioned place breaker bar on frame rail and blip starter. Make sure its 6-pt and 1/2" drive though. My friend broke a 3/8" drive ratchet doing that. At least it was a craftsman and he got a free one!
Well, this is true...for the crank bolt. He fixed his post to read cam bolts.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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ok..
i got the pb blaster. wish me luck.


i think i'm gonna go with sparta rather than arnold. sounds more "tough" lol




i'll be back later tonight with the results
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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ok.. we finally got them off.


i went out and got a brand new socket, sprayed it with some pb blaster, and it came off with no problems today.

gotta love the 6ft breaker bar and pulley holder


and here is my buddy with the tool he made me to show you a comparison in size



yeah... it was overkill.
but it worked.

thanks again for all the help.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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Wow... two 6' long monster breaker bars and that little pulley bolt just came right off? Imagine that.

Impressive tool selection. That movie 300 could learn a thing or two from you boys.
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