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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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another 3vze HG repair

Well it seems the driver's side HG on my 15k mile remanufactured 3vze has begun to fail. Symptoms are: oil in the 2,4,and 6 cylinders, coolant leak above thermostat, low compression on the stated cylinders. Other than buying all new necessary gaskets, what else should i do? I'm not buying new cams, headers, or getting head work done as i'm trying to keep this as cheap as possible. Thanks as always

edit: i'm going with the MLS (multi layer steel) head gasket rather than the cheaper graphite type.. any pro's/cons?

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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 95RunnerSR5
Well it seems the driver's side HG on my 15k mile remanufactured 3vze has begun to fail. Symptoms are: oil in the 2,4,and 6 cylinders, coolant leak above thermostat, low compression on the stated cylinders. Other than buying all new necessary gaskets, what else should i do? I'm not buying new cams, headers, or getting head work done as i'm trying to keep this as cheap as possible. Thanks as always

edit: i'm going with the MLS (multi layer steel) head gasket rather than the cheaper graphite type.. any pro's/cons?
when was the last time your timing belt/idlers/tensioner/waterpump were replaced. i'm right in the middle of this same project too.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Can you show me the link to the MLS HG? You can PM me or reply here.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 03:09 AM
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If you get the MLS gaskets you will NEED to have the block machined and ditto with the heads. The MLS gaskets are much much less forgiving than the graphite slipper plate jobbies.

If you go that route, contact ARP, and get true headstuds from them. Should run in the 120 dollar range or so. Headstuds + MLS + block/head resurfaced = no more HG problem ever again!

(But you do owe it to yourself to put in 1mm oversized valves at the very least.)

Cams can be done when you change your next timing belt and idlers, as you have to pull off the upper plenum to swap the top idler anyhow....

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Old May 16, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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15k and a HG gone already? No Warrenty?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 04:46 AM
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If you have oil in #2, 4 & 6 and low compression, that sounds like the rings are shot or broken. You said you have a coolant leak above the thermostat? Where exactly? Do you have pics?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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If you have oil in #2, 4 & 6 and low compression, that sounds like the rings are shot or broken. You said you have a coolant leak above the thermostat? Where exactly? Do you have pics?
i'll get pics later its raining out now. but it is clearly comming from the HG and not the thermostat housing.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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15k and a HG gone already? No Warrenty?
the block and heads came to me as a long block from oregon engine rebuilders and it has an unlimited mileage warranty but i would have to pull it, strip down to long block, and send back. then wait for him to fix it and ship it back so i can re-assemble it and put it back in. this is my DD and i can't afford to be out of a vehicle that long. i will call the guys tonight and see what they say to do...hopefully they will offer to pay for everything i need.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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link to the MLS gaskets
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-95...ayphotohosting
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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Is Oregon Engine Rebuilders reputable?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Why not just buy some Toyota gaskets?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Is Oregon Engine Rebuilders reputable?
seemed to be when i ordered. they have great customer service also.

Originally Posted by pruney81
Why not just buy some Toyota gaskets?
the factory head gaskets blow more than aftermarket. i'm looking for something of high(er) quality
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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If I'm not mistaken Oregon Engine Rebuilders uses Fel Pro gaskets so that's your problem right there.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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I've got 6 months and 6,000 miles on my Toyota gaskets and they are fine so far. I guess we'll see how long they hold up. Is Oregon gonna pay for the repair?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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I'm doing it myself, Oregon is going to ship me everything i need for the repair. I'm also doing headers to help eliminate hot spots.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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www.engnbldr.com

Best head gaskets around.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Agreed! I used Ted's (engnbldr's) gaskets and have nothing but 100% praise as a 100% satisfied customer.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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if they weren't supplying the parts for free i'd go with ted but all the gaskets are fel pro including the MLS headgasket
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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heres my buildup thread and i tryied to keep it low on the $$.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=top+end
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:30 AM
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I dunno what you got/get but the gaskets I got from ted I dont believe were felpro... They were graphite slipperplate "rock gaskets." The name "felpro" was not on anything anywere....
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