I mean how much lift will i need exactly. I have searched here and google and all I can find is 5+ and I already know it needs more than 5 inches. I already have a 3 in BL. So how much more do I need? 38's would be awesome but if I had to I would go with a tad smaller. I was going to keep things minimal and for need only, but modding is my new "crack" and I want to go bigger.

 

Hold on there feller! Let's not get carried away. You can't just go slappin' some 38s on a IFS rig. You'll be askin' for some bigtime trouble. If you think your pretty extreme maybe some small 36s. If your doin' this for show then that's another story.

 

do a search on here. considering you have a 90 4 runner it probably has ifs so you cna pretty much forget the 38's unless you just cut it all off. You'd be better of chopping the ifs off taking off the body lift and gettign a 5 or 6 inch sas kit. And leaf swap on the back if you have coils.

 

neilan ahem...I just stated that I have already searched here. And I already know it is phsyically possible to fit 38's on an IFS truck. I have seen it, I just do not know how much lift they had. It didnt look custom so if it was possible I would like to go with 38's. But if it is not possible then I know with another 4" susp lift I can fit 36's. I was just fishing for some input from someone that wears them. And its okay mudhippy it is for looks, I will tear it all off in a year or so when I can afford the SAS(college student), but for now I just want something big that will turn heads.

 

Problem is with just daily driving you will damage your suspension.. DO NOT DO IT!

 

Lol if you must you can fit 37x12.5's with so low backspacing rims and a 4" bracket lift + 3" body. Save yourself the hassle and money and just wait for the SAS.

 

So many negative responses....I'd like to see him do it
first4runner--is that an auto tranny or 5 speed?
I suspect you will need to do another 4 inch suspension lift....new wheels that will have less backspacing to prevent the tires from rubbing the frame on sharp turns.

 

I find it almost comical that the attitude of the general forum populous is that if you go one smidgeon over a 35" tire it will instantly grenade...

There is no "magic" sized tire that will cause an IFS rig to fail. I've seen plenty of carnage with 31's and people that use too much skinny pedal. Driven sensibly, you can run bigger than 35's with no ill effects.

To the original question, I have a 4" bracket lift with a 3" body lift and 1.5" bj spacers and run 36's very comfortably. There is no doubt in my mind that I could do a 38" with maybe a little pounding and trimming... I know I could clear a 37 now.

Of course, you don't want to run the rubicon like that, but for DD'ing, trails and a little mud it's perfectly fine.


I bet 99% of the people around here that swear that they wouldn't do any lift at all except for a SAS probably won't ever do anything but complain about the stock suspension and drive it like that until they sell it...


Bracket lifts aren't that bad but they are what they are. You'll still get further down the trail than someone in a corrolla.

 

Well I really am going for more show than go right now. Trust me a SAS is definently in the plans for my new toy but until I can afford it I just want something to tide me over. And what better than 37's and some paint. lol I also like the idea of doing something that most people get a bitter beer face over.

 

Well... since it's all for show, no go, and you want 38's on a DD, why not just limit the up-travel on your front and rear suspension?

Sure it will drive like a brick, but you goal seems to be more about appearance with little concern for performance. I am betting if your suspension can barely go up, you'll be able to fit those 38's with your 3" BL no problem. Limit you steering and you'll surely be golden.

I assume your limited funds going solely to fancy wheels and big meats will not allow for a regear at the same time? 38's with factory gearing... are you sure this is a direction your really want to go?

 

Well I sorta came to a compromise. I am gonna do like bj spacers and coil spacers and go up to like a 35-36. And call it good. That way I could start shoveling money away for the SAS. That way if I do decide to go bigger than 38's then I can, who knows maybe ill do the cookie cutter crawler build that everyone likes

 

these threads are so terrible....

 

And I do want it to perform, just not climbing stuff or going through the mud

and whats so bad about it bob. Ive learned alot by other peoples thread like this as well as perusing the more technical threads posted by the veterans. This is my first 4wd and toyota as well. I am an extremely fast learner, and found that yotatech offered the most information. What do you expect from someone who has only owned 4x4 for about 2 weeks now. I wasnt gifted by God with everything there is to know about toyota's. So sorry you feel that way.

 

then don't cut corners.

 

So... what's left then...??

No way you are thinking 38's will perform on road. Or 35's for that matter.

I'd suggest having fun and learning where your stock rig can take you. Research your options a bit more and start modifying the vehicle as your needs progress. You'll find a ton of useful info here on YT.

I can tell you are excited about having a 4WD and that's great. Just slow down a second you'll save yourself a lot of money, not to mention time, upgrading in a way that makes sense... instead of jumping in head first.

My .02

 

well even in this thread i have learned alot. but bob you gotta keep in account that some people are coming to the site without much prior knowledge of toyota's, I RARELY take a car to the shop so I know all about vehicle maintenance. But as ive never had one before that had 4wd so transfercases, in depth regearing, axle classification, lockers, IFS vs SA is all new to me. Trust me I read every single pertinent post and build thread there was on here before I even posted in the greet me forum. I dont understand why you hate this post? I didnt re-ask a question. If I have and it was overlooked. Id immediately apologize if I have. But this site is all about the free exchange of ideas and knowledge, not to criticize those that know less than you. Trust me in a few months I wont be asking noob questions. And on the same note I wont be bashing those that are newbs.

And I have already said I was going to slow down for now maybe a slight spacer lift but for the most part I am just gonna save for a SAS and then go HUGE. You gotta understand where I grew up you had the drug dealers or "import/export" fellas down here by the tx/mex border that had oodles of money and got enormous custom lifts on 44's. And so I grew up wanting one. Some people prefer low and fast for the desert, and others tons of articulation because they trail wheel and go rock climbing. Its all about what you know, so please do not scoff at what i would like to do? By performing, I would like it to turn when I turn the round thing coming out of the dash. And when I hit a bump, I dont want to have to go to the dentist. Im not cutting corners, I am just trying to settle for an appetizer until I can afford one of those dandy solid axles.

And elvota that is what I had in mind, scanning the forums and net a little more and then coming up with a mod schedule that includes a SA in the future

 

my chime: spend a little less on tires, make the truck look good and work good, if you dont wear the tires out you can sell or tade on bigger when you have room. SAS is the primo way to go (I havn't done it yet and did a 3.25 BL to clear my 35's) That way yopu can do some off roading and see what this is really about. Yes its cool to have a "monster truck as a DD but it sucks to have something that looks capable but isnt.
Not being negative but I was a horny young man once who didnt like advice that didnt suit me and grew up eventually, with experience. Take the advice and read a bit here and make your decision but please dont make your truck undrivable cuz its a waste.

 

first4runner, hey, i understand where you wanna go w/yer rig. you want more show/head turning then getting dirty and breaking things in the mud. i'm in the same boat w/you because i like to spend my time going to auto shows and i'm building my rig to show some day. being a daily driver and having other responsiblities in life takes time and money to get yer rig the way you want it. the guys that say anything negative are usually the ones who think they have the perfect setup. see Bob200587 w/his 31x10.5 tires? you wanna go big? i say go for it! just remember to modify everything else you need to in exchange for the big tires. Most of all, have fun doing it. good luck to ya and congrates on yer new 4Runner. Welcome to the land of Yota.

 

Besides, the cost of gas to drive it (sans the necessary mods) will eat you up...

 

hahah 38's on an IFS Truck. Sure you can do it, Just dont plan on turning the wheels to much or going over any bumps


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