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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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dana 44 toyota rear end swap

this guy i know has a dana 44 rear end off of his jeep cherokee I was wondering how hard would it be to put that rear end under my 84 or is it not worth the trouble? also if i do get the 44 how much should i offer the guy? you guys are alot of help thanks
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Why?

Keep whatcha got...you'd gain nothing but a headache.

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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your toy axle id imagine would be stronger. and more clearance compared to the d44
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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someone told me that if i put 33x12.5 tires on the truck i would need new gearing or i wouldn't be able to keep a clutch in it
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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This is true

You will burn your clutch up because the different size tires will lower your final drive, making it harder to turn your tires, thus you will have to slip the clutch in order to move (higher rpms for more hosses to turn the tires). This in turn burns up the clutch. A dana 44 will not do anything to avoid this, unless it is already geared to around 4.88 and then you will still need to regear the front to wheel it. And buy new rims to fit the axle bolt pattern.

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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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so if i want to put the 33x 12.5's on my truck would i have to do something with the gears like put 4.88 on or would the 4.10's still be good just i would have to put a new clutch more often ----if thats true how often would you think i would need to replace the clutch
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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I looked into doing a a front D44 for my 89 4runner. The width is different than toy axles, the bolt pattern is the same through you happen to get a chevy D44. If you were going to do this pick up a front to or get a matching pair of axles. The other thing is with the front is making a parts and flipping the steering. Then you can swap out the stock brake master cylinder for a GM MC for the larger volume front brakes.

That is why I picked up a 84 toy straight axle today from the boneyard.

Dan
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Don't waste your time. Toy rears are way STRONGER. Find a 4.56 third if you have a V6 or just regear the third you have now.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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To go to 33's?

Okay...NO, you won't burn out your clutch unless you don't know how to drive...You will, however, have a DOG on the highway, and be super slow. That is all that lowering the final drive does. If a clutch on normal tires lasts 150k (hypothetically) then i'd imagine a clutch on 4.10's and 33's lasting to, say 140k.

33's are not THAT much harder to turn than the stock tires. A little, but not bad. If you can drive a clutch well already, it will take very little adjustment to the new tires, just a bit more gas is all.

Once the clutch is out, its out, there is no more slipping, unless you are running enormous power. The little 4 banger in these trucks deosn't have enough power to slip the clutch with big tires (talking like 44" or better), it'd just kill the engine.

Anyway, don't worry about your clutch, and don't swap a d44. It'd be a ton of headache for nothing.
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