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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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As a loyal Playstation consumer, I have to go change my pants.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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well looking at the stats of both machines it looks like the PS3 is a little bit more powerful. Probably not noticable. According to the page I'm looking at ( http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614783p1.html ) the main differnce is going to be the PS3 supporting 1080p while the XBox is supporting 1080i. I dunno what TV supports 1080p though, I have a 42" Toshiba DLP HDTV and it doesnt support 1080p.

Actually now I look on some web sites I cant find ANY TV's that support 1080p. My guess is its a typo? Or its ready for TV's that will support that format? Regardless in that aspect it doesnt appeal to me since I'm not gonna go spend another 3000 more dollars for a new television.

The other thing which some people might like is the 7 controller bluetooth compared to XBox's 4 2.4ghz RF. Bluetooth does not have the range of 2.4ghz rf but it does have a 30 foot range, and I doubt many people sit more then 30ft away from their TV while playing a video game. Bluetooth should be good on power consumption too, so that might be nice, but I guess we'll have to see if the controllers are rechargable, or AA batteries or what. Regardless I dont have 7 friends that play video games hehe. Once a year or so 3 of my friends will be in the mood to play my xbox now at the same time. I have a 42" TV and playing split screen 4 way gets tough, playing 7 way split screen is just retarded. If you have a ton of dorky friends and a 70" TV then this might appeal to you.

The XBox supports wi-fi a/b/g while PS3 only supports b/g. This doesnt matter to me since I only use G anyway.

The XBox 360 is due in store in Nov 2005, while the PS3 we are looking at Spring of 2006. This will probably make a huge difference in sales since XBox will beat the christmas rush.

I dunno I'm leaning toward the XBox. I'm hoping the Nintendo Revolution will really impress me so I can get out of this XBox vs PS thing and go play some games that are actually fun heheh

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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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Thanks for your feelings CynicX... it helps me take the blinders off. Right now I'm in a spot that I'm a bit too close to one of the offerings coming up and it's hard to see what else is going on.


One thing that I can pass on is that the initial price point of these new boxes may turn out to be higher that what the public is used to - or thinking of. To get the level of performance that people are "expecting", the manufacturers are pushing the "bleeding edge" in terms of designing for the technology that can be mass produced in this footprint _now_. That may cause them to recoup the costs (and pay for production) early versus running a manufacturing cost loss model like the last generation did.

There're also marketing folks babbling that since Xbox 360 is being released before the PS3, Xbox 360 may be snubbed until folks get to see the PS3. And, if MS doesn't sell "a lot" of machines early, then it may keep the pricing higher longer, and/or game authors may get cold feet because they too have costs to recoup.

It'll be interesting around Xmas...

btw, if you haven't seen it, there's more info about Xbox 360 in this month's Xbox magazine. They have some in-game shots from early titles as well, of course, seeing the games live in real time will be the real test.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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I am kinda nervous about XBox's new system. I think the PS3 is gonna hit hard. I just dont like any playstation games. I like some of the RPG offered for XBox, such as Shenmue. In my opinion there is just a better feel to the XBox then the playstation, the playstation always felt like a child toy to me while the XBox felt like a computer.

Of course I guess they are both like computers now. I guess I'll just wait until I see what games are going to be offered for both then pick the station.

Now a days though a game manufactor will make the games for both XBox and PS2. So I imagine they will continue to do the same.

Playstation Online is going to have to take one major leap to even near the gaming experience of XBox Live though. This will probably be something that the new PS3 will offer, or at least I hope. If not then XBox is going to be the system of the future.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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1080p is like the pie in the sky for TV manufacturers.
Supposedly there are a bunch of new sets that will be out this fall/xmas that will be able to receive a true 1080p signal (i.e. Sony's new SXRD technology).

Video Games and Computers will probably be the only source that provides true 1080p content tho, as most OTA, HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, satellite/cable sources will be max 1080i. From what I understand there isn't even an entry in the broadcast table for 1080p.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Crux
1080p is like the pie in the sky for TV manufacturers.
Supposedly there are a bunch of new sets that will be out this fall/xmas that will be able to receive a true 1080p signal (i.e. Sony's new SXRD technology).

Video Games and Computers will probably be the only source that provides true 1080p content tho, as most OTA, HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, satellite/cable sources will be max 1080i. From what I understand there isn't even an entry in the broadcast table for 1080p.
ahh ok that makes sense....yeah I paid waaaay to much money for my TV to be upgrading it now. I dont even have HDTV cable broadcast anymore heheh. So the only thing I use HD for is playing XBox video games, and apparently my DVD play converts something or something...
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by midiwall
What would you think is "reasonable"?

And Ray, I'd be interested to know why the PS3 (seemingly) excites you more than Xbox 360?


fwiw, these may be loaded questions based on information that I may or may not have and may or may not be able to share if I did have it.

reason? hm...Gran Turismo!...the only reason i bought my PS1,PS2.. ?I do agree that Xbox has better graphics power(playing GTA3 on PS2 made me wanna throw it out the window) The new PS3 sounds promising
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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From what I've gathered, the XBox is headed too much towards a computer's architecture. The PS3 remains solely a gaming machine. That's why the graphics engine on the PS3 is going to be better. I'm thinking Sony's gonna win this round.

If you wanted a computer, you'd buy one, right? If you want a gaming machine, you want one solely dedicated to gaming. I guess that's just my personal preference, but seems to me like that's the direction the XBox should have taken, instead of trying to make a PVR/Gaming type machine.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Yeah, Bill Gates is pushing the Xbox 360 to be a Media Center Extender.

Basically you'll be able hook up your Xbox 360 to network and view all your photos, vidoes, mp3s, etc that are on a Media Center Server somewhere else in your house.
(Microsoft's Media Center is like a component that installs ontop of WinXp that provides DVR, mp3s, photos, videos, webcasts, etc - all through an easy-to-use UI).

I have a friend that has this working with the current Xbox, and it's pretty cool.
Take a bunch of pics with a digital camera (kid's b-day, etc), dump them into a directory on the server and then do a slide show on the big TV in the living room through the XBox with a bunch of ppl in the room (easier than crowding around a computer monitor), with an mp3 playing in the background.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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these machines are very much similar....if the xbox offers a little more techy stuff and ps3 doesnt then I'll probably lean toward the xbox...

basically both these machines are computers....so hopefully they will do more then just play games. I really like the feature in the current xbox where you can burn a cd into the console and let the music play during a game (in some games) or you can i can listen to music through my surround sound system without having cd's everywhere.

I say let it go more towards a computer. Then at least I'm not paying 500 bucks for something that only plays games and nothing else.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CynicX
I really like the feature in the current xbox where you can burn a cd into the console and let the music play during a game (in some games) or you can i can listen to music through my surround sound system without having cd's everywhere.
It's been publicly announced, so I can tell you that with Xbox 360 you'll be able to take a portable device like an IRiver H10, Creative Zen, etc, plug it into a USB port on Xbox and let Xbox play content from the device - including protected content (given that you have the license).

It'll also co-op with other media devices on your home network and let you stream that content - through a game or standalone.

Oh, and if you like the media player visualizations, it's got some surprises waiting for you in that area as well.

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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Crux
1080p is like the pie in the sky for TV manufacturers.
Supposedly there are a bunch of new sets that will be out this fall/xmas that will be able to receive a true 1080p signal (i.e. Sony's new SXRD technology).

Video Games and Computers will probably be the only source that provides true 1080p content tho, as most OTA, HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, satellite/cable sources will be max 1080i. From what I understand there isn't even an entry in the broadcast table for 1080p.
only TVS thats support 1080p are the higher end larger LCDs

the sharp aquous 45" and westinghouse 37" both support 1080p

i work at best buy...haha im not that big of a loser

with PS3 support 1080p yea it probably will but only high end top budget games will support it

most games wont need it...the biggest advatange to progressive scanning is faster frame rates..the average user won't even be able to tell the difference.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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http://www.gamegeeknews.com/ps3_game_price.html

At the CESA Developers Conference Hirokazu Hamamura, president of Enterbrain (publisher of Famitsu) talked about the price range of upcoming PS3 software. Much like Xbox and Xbox 360, he sees a significant price increase between PS2 and PS3. Hamamura-san forsees the cheapest PS3 software being at least $70 USD (EUR 57 / YEN 7,800) while the most expensive would be around $79 USD (EUR 65 / YEN 8,800). That will leave Canadian gamers paying $83-$94.

Perhaps Kutaragi was right and we should all just suck it up and get second jobs.

Props: Yasokiri (in Japan)




http://digg.com/gaming/PS3_Game_Pricing_Revealed

"The owner of Famitsu Magazine kicks us all in the balls by revealing the price range of PS3 games at the CESA Developers Conference in Japan. $70+ Holy crap are they expensive."


Search it on the net too.

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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I'm sure we can get a mod chip and hack it!!!!! fight the power and we can lower those obsurd prices
FYI:I personally dont do this
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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They will just raise prices on everything else when they don't hit their target sales numbers.


$70 a game... Humph
http://www.gamegeeknews.com/ps3_game_price.html
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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DUH ME...... DIDN'T THINK OF IT.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Nintendo controller?








Originally Posted by 4-RUNNIN' FREAK
http://www.gamegeeknews.com/ps3_game_price.html

At the CESA Developers Conference Hirokazu Hamamura, president of Enterbrain (publisher of Famitsu) talked about the price range of upcoming PS3 software. Much like Xbox and Xbox 360, he sees a significant price increase between PS2 and PS3. Hamamura-san forsees the cheapest PS3 software being at least $70 USD (EUR 57 / YEN 7,800) while the most expensive would be around $79 USD (EUR 65 / YEN 8,800). That will leave Canadian gamers paying $83-$94.

Perhaps Kutaragi was right and we should all just suck it up and get second jobs.

Props: Yasokiri (in Japan)




http://digg.com/gaming/PS3_Game_Pricing_Revealed

"The owner of Famitsu Magazine kicks us all in the balls by revealing the price range of PS3 games at the CESA Developers Conference in Japan. $70+ Holy crap are they expensive."


Search it on the net too.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Could be a delay....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11458047/
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Yes I'm buying a 1080p or better just for my PS3. I'm buying 5 of them at the launch date. Then hoarding them until they are scare. Then I will sell them for a jacked up price. Hahahahahaha!!!!!
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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This is cool....

The PS3, which can be played simultaneously by up to seven people, will be powered by the “Cell” chip, which is significantly more powerful than Intel Corp.’s Pentium 4, the most common chip for today’s PCs and existing game machine processors.

It will also feature a super-powerful graphics chip, a built-in Ethernet port for high-speed Internet access, and Blu-ray, a next-generation DVD format backed by Sony.

I think my son would have permanently deformed hands if he had this.
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