I Found this on another site. I know not many of you are into loud systems, but it makes for good reading.
I can see both sides to this. One side the idiots screwing it up for everyone, and the other side, people who don't want to be forced to hear others music.
When will it come down to the exhaust notes that seem to carry forever?





I know regulations are all over, but it seems to be getting worse.

And so the snowball effect shall begin.

http://www.soundoff.org/usaci.htm

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Updated 01/29/2006

Stereo Ordinance in St Louis. Competitors and Shop Owners Beware!

Below is a copy of an article about the new sound ordinance in Saint Louis. The new law will limit the number of speakers, size of speakers, and allow for impounding and large fines.

two ten inch subs - ILLEGAL
one 15 inch sub - ILLEGAL
amp larger than 300 watts - ILLEGAL
Installing any of the above - ILLEGAL

Store owners could be fined for selling these items.

The industry and the CEA must act in this most serious matter!

Here's the story.....

City police would be able to seize cars blasting loud music under an ordinance passed Friday by the Board of Aldermen.

The ordinance, which would take effect once signed by Mayor Francis Slay, prohibits the use and even installation of some enhanced speakers.

Alderman Craig Schmid's proposal easily had enough votes to pass, but only after aldermen turned up the volume on their own concerns. Impounding a car for playing loud music is too severe, opponents said, and ripe for abuse.

"It's almost idiotic for us to take somebody's car for something like that," Alderman Stephen Conway said.

Schmid said he wanted to send a "strong message" to drivers who cruise through residential areas, jarring neighbors and rattling windows.

"I analogize it to auditory graffiti," Schmid said.

Other aldermen said loud music coming from cars is among their top complaints from constituents. The music gets so loud, said Alderman Dionne Flowers, that when "you're in bed, you fall out."

The bill would prohibit operating car that creates "louder volume than is necessary for convenient, normal hearing," which is the same language as the city's current anti-noise ordinance.

But the new measure would outlaw possessing or installing any car stereo with a speaker over a foot in diameter; having more than one speaker 10 inches in diameter; more than 10 speakers overall; more than two amplifiers; and any amplifier over 300 watts.

In addition to impounding the car, possible penalties include a minimum of $250 fine on the first offense and $500 on subsequent offenses within a year.

The city's push to quiet loud music is not new - the Board of Aldermen passed a bill targeting cars with loud music 10 years ago.

On Friday, some aldermen complained that the measure is heavy-handed. Stephen Gregali, who represents the 14th Ward, questioned whether police would get rulers to measure the length of speakers.

"It's like killing an ant with a howitzer," Alderman Charles Q. Troupe said of the measure.

Bob Pfeiffer, who has been installing custom car stereos for 23 years in St. Louis, said the ordinance could destroy his business.

"I might as well lock my doors now," said Pfeiffer, who operates Automotion Alarm and Car Stereo on North Broadway.

Not all "tricked out" stereos are used for cruising and thumping music, said Pfeiffer, whose his clients include jazz musicians.

"What a crock," Pfeiffer said. "It's really a bogus bill."

If this sort of legislation is allowed to stand our industry is at serious risk. we can no longer sit by and allow this to happen.

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http://www.bcae1.com/capacit2.htm

Please 'Boom' Responsibly
As most of you have noticed, the noise ordinances have become much tougher lately. Most of this is due to idiots, yes IDIOTS, who drive through residential areas with their windows down while their system is playing at full power. To make things worse, the music they listen to has all sorts of foul language that's not suitable for small children, (who may be playing outside). There are even a few people, who are even beyond idiot status, that play their systems at full power through residential areas after 10:00 PM (when many people go to bed). I don't believe that this type of behavior is good for the industry. If the fines get too stiff, people will stop buying large systems. If this happens, more people will get out of car audio (who wants a mediocre system). People get interested in things because they're exciting. A deck and four 6.5" speakers are not going to interest many of the younger car audio enthusiasts. If car audio enthusiasts keep annoying more and more people, the fines will keep getting tougher. All of this will only reduce interest in the equipment that fuels the industry. If you want to listen to your system at full volume, get out on the highway where there's little chance of bothering anyone. When you get to a red light, turn it down. If the only thing attractive about you is your 'system', you have some work to do. Bottom line... Think about what you're doing. Think about other people. It's not the end of the world if you have to turn the volume down for a little while.

 

I think this is a piss porr way to attempt managing a problem.

Like outlawing guns b/c people are killed.

Perhaps if legislation went after the actaul offense/ crime there might be a chance at making change.
What next, certain color cars are illegal b/c they are considered "fast", "dangerous", or "reckless"

I would like legislation to refelct the problem, those that are not directly causing the problem
Sports cars are fast........what a crock

 

simple solution. if a cop hears your tunes and considers it offensive or disturbing in any way, then you get a ticket - up to the officer's discretion. the first ticket is $100 and it doubles with each successive offense. problem solved.

regulation of the possession or sales/installation of the equipment is ludicrous.

that's what a local uninformed and absolutely IGNORANT government without regard for civil liberties will get you.

 

well put.
That sums up my position.

 

If they do that then they should ban loud pipes on motorcycles. They are much worse than loud music.

 

At least the loud bikes move on. I've had guys sit outside the house bumping their (c)rap after midnight long enough for the Police to respond and respectfully request they cease their auditory assault on the neighborhood.

I've had nice systems in the past and thoroughly understand the desire to 'pump up the volume', rumble your butt and cause an involutary bowel movement in your passengers but there's a time and place for that.

People just need to show some respect.

 

Oops, good thing I don't live in St. Louis...I guess my two twelves wouldn't pass muster, haha.

I live on main st, admittedly in a small town, but right on a main route and I hear a fair amount of loud stereo's, I used to live just outside the ghetto and heard even more there, not to mention fartcan exhausts. I can tell you, trucks riding down the hill in a low gear with the jake brake on is MUCH more aggravating than a loud stereo driving by, of course, we can't ban trucks from driving on the road. I can see if someone is sitting outside with their music up, but really, who cares about people driving by. This is so ridiculous.