Originally Posted by runner4thebeat

So 2 subs is over doing it? I was looking at one Square Kicker but are they better sounding or just look different?

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these two then i need 2 amps? around 500 RMS? what about a 800-1200 watt amp and running both of them? Amps are real expensive compared to subs..

Originally Posted by Johnnyanger54

1 12' in a 4rth order is nothing to sneeze at... Just wire a single 4ohm dvc to 2 ohm (parallel) and it will pound.. The little MTX RT202 is a great little sub amp for one driver at 2 ohms... I currently have that hooked to a 10 Adire in my wifes dodge QC in a sealed box and it has nice crisp bass... Like i said, just get an OK 12 inch sub, throw it in a 4rth order, and you'll be happy.. The thing about bandpasses is they make crap subs sound decent, they just have a very narrow freq range but they are extremely effcient in that range so not alot of power is needed for big boom boom... Like i said, score yourself a little MTX202 and a single 12.. kaboom... mirror rattling bass, not "knock yo dick in the dirt bass" but definatly boom... HTH
and this can be done for under 300 depending on the sub you buy.. if you get a kicker comp (100) and the MTX amp (120max) youre into it for 220 and have good boom... the better the sub the better the sound, but again BP dont care what you put in them.. Ive heard 2 Jensens in a BP with a BOSS amp sound good before, its all in how you build the box and what you tune it to... The box will make the setup..

Mike

Originally Posted by runner4thebeat

you had me real confused but then i did some reading and i think im a little ok now..So if I were to get a Kicker Comp VR 12" that says is 2 ohm DVC, and i hooked it up to a 300 watt amp(RMS) at 2 ohm, i'd be pretty good? Is that the setup your talking about? Oh and i know about the bandpass box.

Originally Posted by notanymore

for a 2ohm DVC sub you would need a 4ohm amp or a 1ohm amp, but 1ohms are usually expensive and not super common. http://www.crutchfield.com/learningc...rs_wiring.html for alot picture diagrams wiring diagrams to help you understand the wiring and ohm loads.

Originally Posted by Johnnyanger54

If you find a 2ohm DVC only hook up one VC as if you hook up both you'll show an 0 ohm load at the amp and unless you are going to buy an amp for thousands of dollars it will blow the amp... Just get a 4ohm DVC sub, wire it on both VC, that will present an 2 ohm load at the amp (which most amps are rated for) and youll get the most bang for your buck... Ohms law, google it.... basically you cut in half for each thing you hook up.. so lets start here..

Say you have a 4OHM SVC sub.. Wire it up, you have 4ohms, no ifs ands or buts

Say you have 2 4 ohm subs, wire them together, cuts teh ohm load to 2 ohms.

Basicall a DVC will give you more options in wiring, so 1 DVC sub is like having 2 SVC subs.... wire your DVC in parallel an violla 2 ohm load.. so on and so on.. say 3 8 ohm SVC subs.. 8,4,2 ohm load wired in parallel. it always cuts in half... dont go lower then 2 ohms unless you have HIGH end equipment rated for 0 ohm load...

Originally Posted by Johnnyanger54

??? Wha??? Dude, he just needs an amp that can handle a 2 ohm load, pref a D class or mono.. he doesnt need an a/b....

Originally Posted by runner4thebeat

Man you've been great help. I read up on crutchfield and i have a mild understanding of ohm's and all that stuff....Now lol. But i got a little confused on the fact that if I wire one 4 ohm DVC to an amp i'll get 2 ohms but if I wire 2 4 ohm DVC's i get 4 ohms? I thought it was better to get lower ohm's? Or is it because only mono amps can handle such low ohm's? I'm thinking of getting either one or maybe saving up and getting two Kicker CompVR 12" 4 Ohm DVC. Seriously though thanks to all of you for your input you've all been a great help

Originally Posted by notanymore

huh? i never said anything about the different classes of amps... the whole left column in that link is for mono amps. i do agree he should go for a mono amp and class D would be a good idea. i was saying he wont be able to get one 2ohm DVC sub to work at 2ohms.



amps put out more power at lower loads so if your going to get 2 of the kickers, 2ohm would be better, that way you can run them @2 ohms (wiring the voice coils in series and the subs parallel) but if you get only one go with the 4ohm and wire it parallel to reach 2ohms.

Originally Posted by runner4thebeat

What do you guys think about Rockford Fosgates P2's and P1 models? I have an opportunity to buy the p1's for 50 each and the p2 for for 75? Big difference? good brand?

Originally Posted by yotaman84

haha. look up this amp. hifonis brutus. made by maxxus(who makes mb quart) its 2000 watts rms and 4k peak. $350. alpine has some loud stuff as does jl and of course kicker. i have a set a Hertz 12s that were in my truck but now my car and its redic loud and very clean. idk man i could tlk your ear off about subs and speaks nd amps. so if your lookin for a prime system for cheap just send me a personal mail and i can tell ya the best for the price. stereos are kinda one a my passions so ive been researchin um for some time and can help you. just stay away from car toys and anything those places carry

Originally Posted by notanymore

that amp screams ebay junk all over the description, you know its bad when they misspell words in their description of their amp. there is no way you can get any kind of quality 2000w for less than $300 so just stay away. with amps like this if it seems to good to be true it is. I wouldnt buy any amp unless its CEA compliant.