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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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6" OR 6" x 9" speakers

Anybody have a preferance on what size speakers?

I'm looking for some speakers to put in my '87 4Runner, the 4" stock speakers are just not cutting it. I used to have some Infinity Kappa 6x9 speakers mounted in the back of my '86, and they sounded pretty good, but I have heard that 6" round speakers are of better quality.

Any opinions????
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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I prefer a 6x9 over a 6 inch.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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When I opened the board, the first three threads were started by you Steve.

One about Interco tires, one about the rear leaf swap and this one about speakers of all things. I laughed out loud!

I have 6.5" Fosgate unpowered speakers in the rear and 4" in the front. They get the job done and did not break the bank.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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I've been lookin for some new speakers to put in my dash up front cause they're rattlin like a can of spray paint all of a sudden...its really annoying.

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
When I opened the board, the first three threads were started by you Steve.

One about Interco tires, one about the rear leaf swap and this one about speakers of all things. I laughed out loud!

I have 6.5" Fosgate unpowered speakers in the rear and 4" in the front. They get the job done and did not break the bank.
Yeah, I've been pulling that string in the back of my head quite a bit. Heck, those talking dolls would be pretty jealous by now.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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anyone done any sort of mod to replace the 4" speaker with a larger one? 4" speakers suck.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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anyone done any sort of mod to replace the 4" speaker with a larger one? 4" speakers suck.
Ya know, the 4" speakers are like some kind of cruel joke. Those are the only speakers in my vehicle, and they are hurting at that.....
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Go with 6.5" speakers. 6x9's are going to put out a little more bass, but they will have more distortion in the midbass range. Any speaker that is not round will have some bad distortion. The uneven length from the center to the surround causes it.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Go with 6.5" speakers. 6x9's are going to put out a little more bass, but they will have more distortion in the midbass range. Any speaker that is not round will have some bad distortion. The uneven length from the center to the surround causes it.
Distortion, that is exaclty what I would get when I cranked the infinity Kappas. The specs said they could handle the output of my reciever, but yet they would still distort the sound when given a little more juice.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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If I were you, I would get a good set of 6.5 component speakers and put them on the door.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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If I were you, I would get a good set of 6.5 component speakers and put them on the door.
Component, why coponent? I ask because I don't know.....
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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It is a matter of preference.
6x9's are typically louder than 6"'s. But 6" COMPONENT speakers typically sound better. Combination 6" are not going to sound as good as component 6" speakers.

I have a 88' 4runner, and this is my set-up. It is very decent sounding, louder than I can listen to and not too expensive.

front dash: Cerwin Vega 4" mids $20 - Ebay
Front doors: Infinity 6" seperates w/ tweeters on top of door $50 - pawn shop

Back seat where rear amrests are: Pioneer 6x9 $40 - Pawn shop

Head unit - pioneer cd $90 - Wal Mart

Amp- Kenwood 260W 4 Channel - $90 - Pawn shop

Soon: dual 8" sub w/ enclosure for back mounted behind roll bar and another amp to power them.
The subs will take alot of the lows from the other speakers, and I will be able to push more power and sound from them without distortion.

I Don't have the dough that some of you suckers, so I have to piece mine together when I find a good deal. But all-in-all it sounds awesome.

Good luck with yours

Kent
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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6" or 6.5"...end of story

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Component, why coponent? I ask because I don't know.....

Because components use better grade part inside of their passive crossovers than a coaxial does, and the sound difference is AMAZING. [Coaxials don't even have crossovers per say, just a cap to filter out lows to the tweet, and an inductive coil to prevent the highs from hitting the woofer - sometimes no inductor is used and it sounds even worse!] (On an intersting side note, a biamped set of separates should also sound phenominal when compared to the passively crossed over alternative, but that is beyond the scope of this topic...)

As far as a mod for the 4Runner 4" there is one...custom kick panels.

I built a set of them around a braxial set of Orion 6.5s, they sound very very good, image beautifully, but are lacking a bit on depth of the sound stage... I can only get the sound to seem like it's coming from half way out on the hood at best.

They are also being run off of a small 25x2 amp.

As far as your HU's "power" don't believe it, as it might put out 25% of what it claims. Do yourself a favor and get an amp to push the 6.5s. From there you can build custom kicks like mine, or just cut a hole in the door for them where the door pocket is. But if you do the latter, it won't image or stage worth a damn.

Here is a link to my page showing off my kicks:
http://www.sounddomain.com/memberpage/25876/1

ps - Don't let me even catch you thinking about using oval speakers ever again!!!

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Because components use better grade passive crossovers than a coaxial does, and the sound difference is AMAZING. (On an intersting side note, a biamped set of separates should also sound phenominal when compared to the passively crossed over alternative, but that is beyond the scope of this topic...)

As far as a mod for the 4Runner 4" there is one...custom kick panels.

I built a set of them around a braxial set of Orion 6.5s, they sound very very good, image beautifully, but are lacking a bit on depth of the sound stage... I can only get the sound to seem like it's coming from half way out on the hood at best.

They are also being run off of a small 25x2 amp.

As far as your HU's "power" don't believe it, as it might put out 25% of what it claims. Do yourself a favor and get an amp to push the 6.5s. From there you can build custom kicks like mine, or just cut a hole in the door for them where the door pocket is. But if you do the latter, it won't image or stage worth a damn.

Here is a link to my page showing off my kicks:
http://www.sounddomain.com/memberpage/25876/1

ps - Don't let me even catch you thinking about using oval speakers ever again!!!
OH MAN! I need to get a sound dictionary to figure out your lingo!
....coming from the hood.....HUs...(what are those?). I just wanted some good thunpin sound from some decent speakers. However, thank you very much for the info. How about the Polk Audio db6500 speaker setup??? I saw this on Crutchfield, and they looked pretty good, not that I could afford these right now, but they looked nice.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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OH MAN! I need to get a sound dictionary to figure out your lingo!
....coming from the hood.....HUs...(what are those?). I just wanted some good thunpin sound from some decent speakers. However, thank you very much for the info. How about the Polk Audio db6500 speaker setup??? I saw this on Crutchfield, and they looked pretty good, not that I could afford these right now, but they looked nice.
Oh sorry, the "HU" is short for Head Unit; aka - your radio. The published power output is very very optimistic, bordering on blasphemy...lol This is why a small little amp is sooooooooo much better sounding than a HU of the same power output.

As far as the imaging and staging deal - those are IASCA terms used to describe the stage that all the sound seems to be emminating from. Ideally, all the sound should seem as though it were coming from beyond the end of the hood, at or above dash height.

Imaging deals with where on the "sound stage" something is located. If a band is recorded using several microphones and the lead singer is at center stage, the drummer and back left, and a sax at the back right, a properly imaging sound system will portray just that - a lead singer close to the center, and drummer off to the left and back a bit, and a sax to the right of center and back a bit. The farther away it all sounds from you the better, hence "...beyond the end of the hood..." comment.

Hope that helped clarify.

Steve
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Amp- Kenwood 260W 4 Channel - $90 - Pawn shop

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I like pawn shops too. Just got be careful about product and price.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4Fink
I've been lookin for some new speakers to put in my dash up front cause they're rattlin like a can of spray paint all of a sudden...its really annoying.

Fink
that is funny. I had to replace mine just a month ago for the same reason im a poor boy going to walmart.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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If I were you, I would get a good set of 6.5 component speakers and put them on the door.
I agree. If you are looking for a nice full range speaker, that's the way to go!
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveO
Anybody have a preferance on what size speakers?

I'm looking for some speakers to put in my '87 4Runner, the 4" stock speakers are just not cutting it. I used to have some Infinity Kappa 6x9 speakers mounted in the back of my '86, and they sounded pretty good, but I have heard that 6" round speakers are of better quality.

Any opinions????
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