DudeBud

im using AA's t-18 to 21spline toyota t-case kit came with adapter, tranny main shaft, gaskets, coupler, a thin plate that covers the hole for tcase shifter if you have topshift case and bolts

rocket

iTrader: (1)

Heres a little bit of 302 swap inspiration... http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/hottoy/jd/

DudeBud

been posted...nice swap huh he's a member on yotatech https://www.yotatech.com/forums/members/73.html

jposey66

Advance Adapters Ford AOD tranny to Toy T-case, part number 50-4402, $611 shipped. ouch! Worth it though!

Posey

4Hummer

$611 US for an adapter. I dont think so scooter

I think Ill be buying a Ford F250 4x4 and using the 5.0L Engine, tranny and t-case. I can pick up an entire truck for under $800.

DudeBud

are you planing on using the axles too. ford used that scisor type front on ranger-f250 for years 80-early 98 if i remember right

colsoncj

What did ford use for t-cases, and with those cases, are dual cases possible? lookin for a 2ish:1 and a 4ish:1 ratios. I think they did have those scissor axles.

colsoncj

One thing I've noticed, it looks like truck upper intake manifolds have the t/b on the right, while cars its on the left.... from that I would think the truck intakes would be desirable to retain the stock airbox location....

So I know 1 person is using the SN95 pulley system (94-95 Pony GT's) cause its a nice tight fit... JD did a custom pulley setup... Dude what are you runnin? What options are there?

DudeBud

march underdrive pully kit.we have pully golore at th shop but i could not find a 2 groove crank 4 bolt pully that wasn't in use so went with that kit

jposey66

One issue with using a Ford T-case was that most, if not all, of them have the front output shaft exiting on the drivers side. I was keeping IFS and the front diff input is on the passengers side.

Also, Colson, I think the T/B thing you mentioned is just a matter of turning the upper intake around, putting the t/b on whichever side you want.

Posey

JamesD

Truck intakes are way too tall to fit under the hood unless a B/L is what you have and then I still don't know. Thee problem with the truck intake besides its height, it uses a twin bore throttle body not a round one in the cars. Car FI intakes are positioned for body style. The upper intake can go either way on HO and non-HO cars. The only little problem is the upper intake plaque may be upside down depending on what plaque/intake you have. For example, you have a 88 Lincoln Town Car. The intake tube is on the drivers side. For some reason you modify something under the hood of that car and you cant put the air cleaner on the drivers side you can turn the intake the other way. The only thing you may have to do is extend some vacuum lines. HO, non-HO and Cobra/GT40 and some Edelbrock intakes can be mounted either way. Aftermarket may vary. The truck intake cannot be switched. So stay away from the truck intakes and use the car ones or aftermarket.

James

colsoncj

Perfect information!!!! Exactly what I was looking for.

I had heard that truck intakes where taller, but hadn't verified. Didnt know about the dual bore either. Also hadnt clicked that i could just switch the intake around to whatever i wanted... fixing a plaque is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

JamesD

One more thing I forgot to add to all this. ALL 91-94 Thunderbird/Cougars came with the 302 HO. None of them were non-HO's. They share similat SN95 front brackets and timing cover excpet the water pump on the Birds/Cougars have a threaded snout since the fan screws on the water pump and the Mustang bolts on. I will try to clean everything up soon so it will be simplier post.

James

colsoncj

Sounds good James.... I'm thinking about condensing all the information here into a FAQ kinda thing in my first post.... If you want to condense it all and email it to me, I can add it to the first post, or just post it up when you get to it....

colsoncj

OK, time to revive this thread for a bit...

I was looking for a decent car to be a backup DD and came across a 93 Thunderbird. Now if I've read this all right, it should be a roller 302 HO motor, with a SN95 bracket setup which is everything onto one bracket.

I believe the car has a AOD for a stock transmission (is this correct??) I can take that stock 2WD AOD and get an adapter to go to a W56 T-Case, correct?

jposey66

Not certain about the brackets (not doubting, just don't recall), but that car will have everything else you need. I used a 2wd AOD and a W56, with an Advance Adapters kit. Total disassembly of the AOD will be required to replace the output shaft. Read all of the AA instructions as they want you to remove some material from the inner end of their output shaft. I had my tranny bench-built at a local tranny shop and just had them swap the output shaft while they had it apart. Also, make sure the passages in the new output shaft do not have pieces of packing peanuts stuck in them (you can guess how I know this).

Do you plan to always run IFS or do you hope to go SFA in the future?

If you need pictures or anything, just let me know.

Posey

colsoncj

I'll have a SFA by the time I do this... I was thinkin I could just drive the car until I get around to the swap... plus the car will have everything from wiring to computer to trans etc. etc.

jposey66

If going SFA, at least look into using a transfer case that will bolt directly to a Ford tranny. I was keeping IFS and plan to forever, so I had to have the front output of the t-case on the passenger's side. With a little research, I think you should be able to come up with a t-case and front axle that will work together, with the T-bird drivetrain, without having to spend the $600 + on a AA adapter. Transmission cases/housings are the same on the 2WD and 4WD AOD's, so I would think that worse case would be that you have to replace the output shaft in the 2wd AOD with one out of a 4wd. I am not sure if the output shafts are different. I am perfectly happy with my set up, but just thought I would present you with some options.

Posey

colsoncj

Another thing I've considered, but havent researched enough is to determine if there is a dodge or chevy t-case that will (with a little case work) bolt to a ford AOD. I plan on using toyota axles, so would like to retain the pass drop.

jposey66

This should help.....

This is a listing of most t-cases with specs.


http://www.offroad-tech.com/tech/transfercase/