oh and my jeep buddy pointed me to this thread on his jeep forum

http://jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=242836

i figure get the m8000 w/ hawse, and pick up a roller fairlead. is that a good price for a brand new one, and are they all the same? (ie would this one work w/ my m8000/maybe faster warn?)

 

I think that all of the major 8000lb and above winches have the same width opening and bolt spacing for the hawse/fairlead. I know the Warn site has dimensions and maybe Milemarker does too if you want to be absolutely sure but I bet they are the same.

As for the price I wouldn't pay over that since I would guess that there are good number of those out there that are un-wanted. I even have mine but it isn't new...$30+shipping?

 

Warn also has a new winch just being released, including synthetic rope, locking hook, bling fairlead and it is LIGHT:
details:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431657

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=449929

 

yea ive seen it. they kind of say its mainly for rockcrawling, and its fairly expensive. does look very nice though!

 

If I took my rig rockcrawling, I'd have one of those on the front in a second.

 

The new warn looks very nice but is 50' of cable enough in most situations?

 

well like i said, im no expert....but my opinion on that:

-the farther the line is out, the less powerful the pull....so....maybe the idea is, that most people dont use that extra? i dont know...just trying to rationalize

 

Actually - the more line out, the stronger the pull. When rockcrawling, you have anchor points relatively close and are on the clock, so don't want to take the time to spool all that out to get max pull.

 

Aren't winches rated with max power with only a few wraps on the spool? The more line is out, the more power it has, but the slower it goes?

Edit: tc you got that while I was typing :pat:

 

The more line is out, the less leverage the ankor has on the drum, therefore the more power you have. Think of it as tire size, the larger diameter tire the more torque it takes to spin it as compared to a smaller tire.

BTW, I have am HS9500i I love it its a freakin beast, its probably over kill. I was going to get an m8000, but at the last second I guy on this board posted a complete hs9500i for sale with all the accesories, used once to lift a man out of a sewer, for 450 shipped!!! I couldnt pass that up.

 

That's a hell of a deal- I'd replace my M8000 for that!

 

seriously! maybe ill have the same luck...

 

another note the M8000 is very loud compared to the HS9500

 

Really, it should be. Remember, you only need enough line for the distance you need to PULL - not the distance to the anchor. You can make up that with extra cable, straps, chain, etc. The shorter spool length makes it easier to get full power out of the winch and saves a lot of weight.

 

ok well i think ive decided on one....

i found a deal on one on nc4x4.com....its an xd9000i for 600 bucks gently used. my question is....will it fit inside my tjm15? the top of the winch has a big gray part on it....can this be removed?

 

Your out of luck with a winch with an integrated selenoid like the xd9000i (that's what the 'i' stands for. You need one without it to fit a TJM or ARB bumper without modification.

 

so what is the run down on winches that will fit the TJMs?

aaron

 

They are rated up to a 9500lb winch. Any winch with a seperate solenoid box should work fine.

 

so i just bought a warn tabor 9000 for 500 shipped.....pics to come as soon as it arrives and gets put in.

 

I installed my Warn 9500 XP into the TJM T-17 this weekend and it was pure bolt in. I had to clock the clutch 2 allen holes to get the lever to line up and I also cut and re-welded my clutch lever 180* so free spool would not hit the grill when selected.