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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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off camber...how far is to far

I know this is gonna depend on a whole slew of things, but in the few times I've been out, I've had a couple spots where I was puckered pretty good. As my truck is my daily driver, I saw a lev-o-gage for $8 so I snatched it up and on Saturday saw it hit 35degrees a number of times.

So, I'm wondering, at what point, generally, should one be worried?

Obviously, the lev-o-gage isn't exactly a high precision instrument either so that's just a guesstimate.

I've done several searchs and can't really find what I'm looking for on here.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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heres the best answer: you wont know until its too late.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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its alot further then the average person thinks
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by customcruiser
its alot further then the average person thinks
Yup... once you crap your pants, you've still got a ways to go - at least that's the case for me.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jacksonpt
Yup... once you crap your pants, you've still got a ways to go - at least that's the case for me.
Well 35 was pretty damn uncomfortable, but I've read of people going for long stints at 35. It's the being at 35 and needing to goose it that really made me nervous.

My cajones are not quite there yet.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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I think it's something like 40-45 ? Don't know exactly but I get scared pretty easily so even at a small angle
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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It varies truck to truck place to place.

Pure side hills, as in pitching in only one direction, will give you the most chance to think about it and feel it.

When the truck is flexing and all of the sudden drops, you will just get there.

If you have time to look and check the gauge, you can go farther.

If you smell poop or hear crunching metal, it was too far.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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I dont have an answer for you but I agree the puker factor scared the hell out of me. Esp during transitions from one side to the other.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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I got pretty far up on the right side this past weekend - farther than I'd been before, and things were "interesting". FunRunner was in my right seat and as I looked over to see if she was breathing, it sure looked like she could touch the ground out the window.

I don't have a clinometer mounted so I dunno how far I was. I actually have a tilt-box, but it's just too big and kinda' goofy lookin' to me. So I started working from the words that Flygtenstein said above - "If you're not on your side, you got more room to go".

I actually get more of a pucker going when I get the wheels on the edge of a drop-off. I had one of those happenin' on Sunday as well. Pics will be up tomorrow on my site and over in the "trail rides" area (WA Reiters 3.28.2004)
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
If you have time to look and check the gauge, you can go farther.

If you smell poop or hear crunching metal, it was too far.
I don't think anyone can say it better than that.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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<----see my avatar? too much, even with the top off. i had a strap hooked to the roll bar, and it stopped me from going over.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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I've seen a Toyota (sorta) at 70° and perfectly stable. I've also seen some that roll at 40° with not even a breeze to help out. It all depends on the build.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Exactly, it all depends on the conditions and vehicle. I wheel with a guy who can put his zuk at 70* all day long. Hell, saturday we were out and i was riding with him, he actually laid it on the boggers, without the side ever contacting the ground. It was hard as hell to get out the door to take a picture, if i can find it i will post it. After i got out, he actually backed out of it, and tried again. I was actually suspened by the seat belt and o-˟˟˟˟˟ handle, it was pretty cool.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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It not the angle you need to be concerned about it, it is the tire grip or lack of that suddenly causes a roll. I have seen a fullsize Bronco end up on it's side cause the bead popped off of some 35s.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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I' ve always wanted to get an inclinometer out and jack the rig up to see where it would finally fall over. I've been over 45 degrees more times that I wish I'd been. After 10 years it still scares the crap out of me. Moreso because I have a very springy suspension and one bump in the wrong direction can THROW me over. I went with the Dana 60s to increase strength yet, but I also went with a wider stance and my COG just got way lower. Those axles alone way twice what the Toyota weights. The shipping weight on the front and rear was just under 1000 lbs!
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