Tom

Thats exactly what I found on the other forums so I made my choice not to go with downey. The fact that the custom axles are weak is one thing, but not being able to use 4wd over 25mph is another. Weak axles so you cant crawl it and 25mph speed limit so u cant rip it. To me thats useless but thats just me.

As for the total chaos, now thats one wicked set up. You also get what you paid for. The price is not for me. Maybe in the future but thats maybe.

Scarbro22

Where is the Total Chaos Kit seen?? Thanks

Napoleon047

Total Chaos

ATS Racing : went under for a few years, but they are back under a different name

fooddude

wheres the pics goatboy?

goatboy22382

I will get them up as soon as i get a webshots account going. If anyone can help me with this pic thing shoot me a pm or something.

fooddude

does anyone have any pictures of the downey rear 3 in kit because i am contemplating on getting this.

goatboy22382

here is a link to the pics. I should also say that the spacer did get a little off center from the spring. nothing like it is going to fall out or anything. just a little out of the groove.

http://community.webshots.com/user/goatboy22382

fooddude

thanks goatboy i really like the looks of your runner i think i am going to go with this kit. From the looks of it the back looks pretty even with the front. Was this kit very hard to install?

goatboy22382

the kit was really easy to install. i did it in 4 or 5 hours with basic hand tools. there are a coup;e write ups around here. you may also think about taping the spacers to the coil so that they dont come apart like mine did.

fooddude

so from what i understand the kit comes with coils, spacers, brakelines, and some other stuff.

goatboy22382

thats right, comes with all the hardware you need.

ldivinag

dont forget the shocks.

remember the rear is VERY simple.

unlike ifs where it's very simple but crappy ride or very expensive.

before their wacky front end kit, they also had the upper racho arms only combine with their t-bars to achieve the lift.

but that lift was goofy in the sense that when the tires drooped, the tires tend to bow in. that's because both lower and upper arms dont maintain a parallel configuation during wheel travel.

my version of the WCOR kit has that issue too...

VolcomTacoma

Here are some pics from Total Chaos' website of their 4wd long travel kit.

anthony1

iTrader: (1)

Here's my truck with downey 3" rear and cranked t-bar front with 2" body lift and 33x12.50

http://home.earthlink.net/~audiorat1...s/4runner1.jpg

Here's what it looks like now...in themiddle of another transformation.

http://home.earthlink.net/~audiorat1...one2-15-04.jpg

fooddude

dang the rig looks really good. IN the second pic it looks like your front is way higher than the rear, and i know you have new coils so did you crank the Tbars to much or what.

anthony1

iTrader: (1)

uh...no, the front, I went to the dark side...SAS.
The rear, I'm going to use fj80 2.5" lift springs with Allpro Links.

fooddude

oh duh :pat: now i see that solid axle. I talk before i think too often.

fooddude

does the downey 3 inch kit come with the coils. Because i read somewhere that it only comes with coil spacers and panhard drop bracket. Im a little confused right now, so if someone could clear this all up it would be a big help.

greg mgm

Good thread- - - Does anyone know if its possible to use a coil adjuster setup in the rear (2nd gen). Not a coilover shock, but a threaded spacer with adjusting rings. Seems like it would be a perfect solution. Greg

goatboy22382

downey selss the coils as 1.5 in lift kit and then the spacers and drop are sold separatly as an upgrade to make 3in total.