I've got someone with 500hp waiting for you....

 

500 streetable/trailable, reliable horsepower from a 22re?

 

well for a single pass im sure that the 3L can be made to do a LOT more hp than that....but im talking about a RELIABLE daily driver that isnt going to need a rebuild every 500 miles....

 

Cool! I was afraid you were going to leave me and my 5-speed 3.slow in the dust once you did the 1uz engine swap. Do you think a 1uz with your slushbox, 5.29s and 35s will be able to outrun a 1uz with my 5-speed, 4.88s and 33s .

 

first let me say.... i love my 4runner....

with that said.... the 3vze is a sorry engine.... low on power, poor gas mileage and inherent design flaws that cause headgasket failure....

now if it was fast and got poor mileage, ok..... or if it was slow and gas effiecient, ok....

but to be powerless and get 13mph plus have inevitable headgasket leaks is unforgivable for any car/truck.... even for one built in the 80's/90's....

let me clarify.... i love my truck.... but i'm just hardpressed to find something nice to say about the 3.0...

just my 2cents.... thanks for letting me vent

jay-q
1993 4runner V6 4x4 auto, Forest green metallic
(4.56 gears, 31x10.5x15 revos)
Original Owner / ~135,000mi

 

there are corollas with 4wd. low range and all. Sometimes i would like to see one of the old 4wd wagons lifted up with some big tires under it.

 

Yeah, and people win the lottery every year too!

 

I've driven three 2nd gens and I've driven 4 3rd gens (owned two) and once you've driven a 3.4 the 3.0 feels real slow and I can't imagine going backwards to a 2nd gen as a DD but a dedicated off road truck a 2nd gen would rock but for towing and general driving the 3.Slo isn't enough for me. I've also driven a current gen V6 and V8 and they make the 3rd gens seem like a 2nd gen but I'm content with my 3rd gen for NOW.

 

are you questioning the reliability and durability of the 4.3 and GM small block engines?

my second truck was a hand me down k1500 bought new by a family member in 1988. the engine was never opened up until a friends girlfriend borrowed it, and didnt pay attention to the temp guage. a split heater hose killed it with 228,000. new heads, and the bottom end is still in it.

my girlfriends dad has a 90 GMC c2500 with well over 200k, never opened up.

all three of the trucks i mentioned had a couple things in common. they were all daily driven, and they worked their asses off from day one. they were also well maintained, and thats all it takes.

 

[QUOTE=3car]are you questioning the reliability and durability of the 4.3 and GM small block engines?

QUOTE]

Yeah, I was being cheaky/my typical sarcastic self. My understanding of Chev's was that they put out a reasonable product in terms of reliablity in the late 80's/early 90's, and since then it's been all down hill. They are STILL working out the bugs on their 99-current gen of full size trucks. Hence they have earned the nickname "slaperados."

I still think Toyota did a damn good job on their first V6. It's still more reliable on average than anything Chevy/GMC has put out.

 

I dont mind my 3.0. even with an auto, 4.10's, and 33's, its not that bad. 5.29's will be in there before too long, and that will help with pulling the boat down the road and passing 22re's on 2 lane roads. [QUOTE=CoedNaked]

 

Tell that to all the people that burnt valves and blew headgaskets.

I've known quite a few Chevy 350s and they've all been pretty good motors in terms of reliability. Not to mention they are cheap to fix, easy to work on, and actually have something we 3.slow owners envy, power.

 

a 4.3 is way more reliable. I have 3 friends who are mechanics (own their own shops, make a living off it) that will tell you that the 3.0 is the worst toyota engine ever. A 4.3 gm is way better.

 

i like the 3.0. very smooth running, dependable workhorse. had one for 14 years in a '90 xtracab 4x4. great motor.

 

is it me, or am I the only one that has noticed that this thread was opened up saying, I hate it when people say the 3.0 is slow, then... the thread ends up talking about how everyone deals with it being slow, but its a good engine (I'm not disagreeing... I don't have any experience with them). Just a slight observation on the thread.

 

My dad had a chevy s10 with the 4.3craptech motor.It was sooo grossly underpowered that it makes 3.0 feel like a powerhouse!and not only that the piece of crap burned through 3 engiens before it had 100k miles on it.Thats right,they wouldnt even last 50k before needing to be replaced.
Every time I hear some swaping out good toyota motors for that junk 4.3, it makes me cringe.
The hole reason I own a toyota is because that damn chevy
I have nothing aganst the small block 350.Its a proven reliable motor,but anyone doing a swap please please please stay far away from the 4.3.I hate that engine with a passion.

 

ROFL, do you think maybe its him? The 4.3 vortec is grossly underpowered and makes the 3.0 feel like a powerhouse? Please step away from the crack pipe...

 

As much as I like the 3vze, the 4.3L is a much much much more powerful motor than the 3.0. And it is not uncommon for that engine to last every bit as long if not longer than the 3vze. Either he got a bad block, didnt have it rebuilt correctly, or never changed the oil. Im betting the middle one...

But I'd not ever put a chevy engine into my yota - I dont want a toylet...LOL

 

It started out as: "Why do people need a fast engine? Its not meant for speed" actually...

 

must be b/c i have driven both and the 4.3 has way more power.