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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who carries 2 cv's with them at all times not to mention the ungodly sized 35mm socket!
Biggest size socket i need to change a CV is a 14mm
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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If in Moab on slickrock for example, does anyone have a general guideline for how much is OK to turn and how far it's reasonable to travel with a front diff locked in a turn? Anyone know of an indicator to be aware of such as feeling drive train buildup, chirping tires, or if things tend to break without warning?
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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[QUOTE=crolison;51424499]Biggest size socket i need to change a CV is a 14mm [/QUOTE

I call Bull
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Crolison, what brand cvs are those?
(paying attention to locker thread but am buying cvs soon, so....)
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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btw, Crolison.. might need to update your sig (bumper) BS as well with that 14mm
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Crolison, what brand cvs are those?
(paying attention to locker thread but am buying cvs soon, so....)
The non exploded one that broke first is a Toyota OEM cv, the other is an Advanced Auto Parts cv. I'm going to go exchange the broken advanced tomorrow

Originally Posted by glenyoshida
Anyone know of an indicator to be aware of such as feeling drive train buildup, chirping tires, or if things tend to break without warning?
All the above

Originally Posted by cpizzle42
I call Bull
Originally Posted by JWaldz
BS as well with that 14mm



once tire is off, 10mm, then a 12mm, then a 14mm

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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sooooo how about that sas? Mr king of BS (wanted to do flipoff4 but apparently thats now YT inappropriate)

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Manual hubs??
Ahhh, nevermind. Too slow fer my own good.

Was thinking about the new O'Reilly's (Cardone Select) but they're Chinese. Nothing wrong with my cvs (yet) but the boots are cracking so I was thinking of hanging onto them for uh-ohs and puttin' somethin' new on but can't afford Toyota cvs.

And now, back to the original program.....

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by habanero
Manual hubs??
Ahhh, nevermind. Too slow fer my own good.

Was thinking about the new O'Reilly's (Cardone Select) but they're Chinese. Nothing wrong with my cvs (yet) but the boots are cracking so I was thinking of hanging onto them for uh-ohs and puttin' somethin' new on but can't afford Toyota cvs.

And now, back to the original program.....
Yep hubs, the best things since sliced bread.

I was going to get O'Reilly's, but it was going to take a week to get 1 cv, and I was buying 2 of them. Advanced always has them in stock at the main store in knoxville, so i went with them. Plus at the main store they are rednecks and don't care what the hell you bring in to exchange for a new one
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Do you think you've broken more or less CVs after you got your front locker?
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by glenyoshida
Do you think you've broken more or less CVs after you got your front locker?
Never broke one when i didn't have a locker. They tend to break quicker when I had the arb due to it being a spool, aussie allows some play so they lasted a little bit longer.

oh and here is where i broke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2llyOMwl0Q
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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I would keep it unlocked unless you need it. You will realize it is much harder to steer around sharp turns with the locker on and puts a lot more strain on the front end components. I unfortunately don't have a choice because I have an aussie in the front, but I usually keep it in 2wd as much as possible to keep the front end unlocked.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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good opinions, heres mine. having open diffs is no fun, going lockers in the rear is allot better and can make your tuck very trail worthy but tends to give font end bounce when the front tires try to spin at different speeds. when locked front and rear you can take your time and actually put allot less stress on your front end. lockers f/r will actually help you NOT break front end parts do to the fact that you dont have to work as hard to do the same trails you do before.. now if you get locked F/R and think your a comp crawler and try use the skinny pedal to get past things like the guy in the video crolison posted, then your gonna break...
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by yotaman85
good opinions, heres mine. having open diffs is no fun, going lockers in the rear is allot better and can make your tuck very trail worthy but tends to give font end bounce when the front tires try to spin at different speeds. when locked front and rear you can take your time and actually put allot less stress on your front end. lockers f/r will actually help you NOT break front end parts do to the fact that you dont have to work as hard to do the same trails you do before.. now if you get locked F/R and think your a comp crawler and try use the skinny pedal to get past things like the guy in the video crolison posted, then your gonna break...
Are you locked front and rear?
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cubuff4runner
I would keep it unlocked unless you need it. You will realize it is much harder to steer around sharp turns with the locker on and puts a lot more strain on the front end components...
X2...that's what I do. I'll get all lined up first ready to go up and then hit the switch to lock the front and then turn it off ASAP.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by yotaman85
good opinions, heres mine. having open diffs is no fun, going lockers in the rear is allot better and can make your tuck very trail worthy but tends to give font end bounce when the front tires try to spin at different speeds. when locked front and rear you can take your time and actually put allot less stress on your front end. lockers f/r will actually help you NOT break front end parts do to the fact that you dont have to work as hard to do the same trails you do before.. now if you get locked F/R and think your a comp crawler and try use the skinny pedal to get past things like the guy in the video crolison posted, then your gonna break...
X2...on the skinny pedal, it helps if you have an auto tranny too.

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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You can pretty much go anywhere with a rear locker as with dual lockers. It's a matter of right foot prowess.
Not sure what kind of wheeling you do, but I would definitely disagree. I'm frequently trying to get my front end up and over a large boulder, ledge, set of boulders, etc. while my rear is on loose dirt, gravel, small loose rocks or something else with very little traction. A locked front will pull you up and onto the large obstacle in front of you whereas an unlocked front most likely will not.

A friend of mine and I had an excellent demonstration of this while at the Hammers in February. Locked front and rear, I was able to easily crawl over a number of obstacles on which he was denied. Even though he was running 42" tires and I was running 37's and even though he had a much more sophisticated suspension his front locker wasn't working and I walked over obstacles that denied him.

To the OP, I can't offer you blanket advice other than only use your lockers when you need them. I have a spool in the rear and a Detroit in the front so mine are pretty much "on" all the time. I don't really need that but my setup doesn't give me the on/off option that the ARB's do. Like many things, lockers should be used sparingly.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mudinyeri
To the OP, I can't offer you blanket advice other than only use your lockers when you need them. I have a spool in the rear and a Detroit in the front so mine are pretty much "on" all the time. I don't really need that but my setup doesn't give me the on/off option that the ARB's do. Like many things, lockers should be used sparingly.
Any input is good. Specific situations like you just described are great. They help paint a broader picture and the more info that people contribute the better. As I'm sure you know, there's a lot of opinion and often times it's not the most reliable info so I like to see the unique instances supporting a common theme. There are some people that just have a consistent reputation for no BS or only posting up detailed and useful information when they have it. I dig it! I'd like to think that in a hundred trails or so (probably in the next year or two) I'll be able to post back in this thread and give my own ¢.02

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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If you break alot of CV's you need to learn how to drive and stay off of the skinny pedal.




Originally Posted by crolison
I have no choice but to run my lockers all the time, it's not annoying or a pain in the butt.
Agreed. No real complaints about my Lockrights front and rear.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scuba
if you break alot of cv's you need to learn how to drive and stay off of the skinny pedal.
ouch!!!
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