LOL..well heck if thats the case..I am gonna have more questions...(it's his fault..honest

Is the 89 4 Runner a 2nd Gen?
What manual tranny is behind the 3.0 V6 in an 89 (advance adapters listed 3..grrr)
What are the weak points and things to look for on the 89?

Thx again
John

P.S. If you have any chev or Jeep questions...I can help with those

 

Guys, I'm really disappointed in you.

Unless there is something I don't know about early 3.0s (and I'm almost positive there isn't), it has a timing belt. This motor is a non-interference motor. That means if it breaks, there will be no damage done. It just won't run anymore. So either all you have to fix is a timing belt or something else let go in the motor. What damage do you know was done to the motor?

:pat:

 

Agrunner06,
It is the timing chain for sure. I (along with the previous owner) assumed that it bent the valves, etc.
I have not brought it to my house yet, otherwise I would pull the heads,etc.

Is there a chance that it just needs a timing chain? If so, I think I just scored big

The previous owners son bought it 8 months ago for 3200.00. He drove it for 2 months and the timing chain went out. He talked to a "mechanic friend" who told him that the whole motor would be ruined. So it has sat until he got tired of it in his driveway. He offered it to me for 500.00, and I talked him down to 400.00

Thx

John

 

Reread my post. I even looked in my Haynes Manual and there is no mention of a timing chain for the 3.0. Granted this manual isn't always right. However, on something this major, it would definitely be mentioned.



EDIT: If this motor does in fact have a timing chain, then you are dealing with the 4 cylinder 22re.

 

well if you can keep the 3.0 i would. just put some intake and exhaust and a few other small stuff and you got yourself a good strong engine that will last a long time. IMO.
alan

 

AgRunner06,

Ahhhhh...I see what you are saying. I will assume he meant timing belt then. I am going over tomorrow to have a look see for myself. Hopefully it was just the belt, and it will be a quick fix.

Thx

John

 

If it has a fiberglass removable top, it is a 1st gen.

Check out https://www.yotatech.com/~corey/4runner_faq.htm. Robinhood150 has compiled some great stuff there!

Steve

 

info www.4x4wire.com www.offroad.com www.pirate4x4.com


adapters www.advanceadapters.com www.v8conversions.com

go for the 4.3. it fits better and I've heard of em running for 200k miles. easy to mod. 350 requires electric fans, ect... you can get 275 hp and 300+ ft.lbs. out of the 4.3 easily.

 

Don't forget the $3200 price tag to obtain those numbers via a Powerdyne supercharger. Not exactly cheap.

 

Well I was going to list some links but I see I've been beaten to it. Those should give you a good start for sure. Here's one more (actually listed in the faq link listed above in Jokeplayer's post) http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/4_axles.html
It's about diff gearing but explains how to read the VIN to ID all your parts.

 

No you don't exactly need a supercharger. Try: bored .30 over, 9.5:1 compression, bigger roller cam (roller cam came stock), dual plane intake, port match heads and intake, 670 cfm air/fuel delivery, roller tip rockers, high flow water pump. It wouldn't take a whole lot of work, just the money for all the parts. I've researched this and done the computer dyno sym. These things are pretty accurate. This is power at the crank not the wheels. Now if you wanted to drop compression and put an intercooled vortec charger on it, you could jump those numbers up a whole lot.

 

I think you just stole a 4Runner for $400. Just replace the TIMING BELT and crank her up. Make sure you at least check other components while you're in there...Such as the idler pulleys, front main seal, and water pump. On second thought, just replace the waterpump even if it is good. Chances are it'll go bad before the belt needs changing again.

Toyota motors are more forgiving than Hondas...You don't trash the engine if a timing belt breaks.

Edit: Buy your parts online, they'll be significantly cheaper. And use only Toyota parts...especially the timing belt. The Toy belt timing marks are in the correct position and it will fit right in place the first time...Unlike aftermarket. Take it from one who has been there.

 

hello again,

Yes, I am starting to think I did steal it....although he is a friend...
I told him that it may just need a timing belt, and that if that is the case..he could just pay me to replace it. I would feel bad if I invested 600 and sold it for 2500 or so, knowing his kid could use the vehicle...dang morals!!

I have searched here and yahoo...not sure if I am entering the right "keywords" or not, but does anyone know of a good write-up on replacing the timing belt in the 3.0 V6? I assume there are timing marks on the OH Cams and such...just want to make sure.

Thx again

John

 

yah, both cams and crank are marked but, it's good to brake out a punch and hammer to make sure. TDC is essential but, hey, I took one look at my timing belt and had an ASE mechanic do my ol' 3.0.

 

So are you going to buy it or not? If so, that would be one hell of a steal. It's too bad I can't happen upon something like that. Anyways, my dealership does timing belts for a flat rate of $259 if I remember correctly. I've never seen any write-ups for it but you could just go pick up a Haynes or Chiltons manual and do it. It should be enough to get the job done.

:bounce2:

 

And the price on this labor and all would be?...

 

Well.... i just spent $2,300 getting my 22re bored over, balanced, new cam, etc. I didn't touch the rockers, port matching, increased compression, etc. Probably a ballpark figure of $5,000-$6,000 for labor and parts in building up the motor that way. Your looking at a bored throttle body, new injectors, and a metric buttload of other pieces.

 

AgRunner,
Oh yes..I plan on buying it if I can't get it running. But if I can just put a bel/tensioners/waterpump on it and get it running..I will just let him pay me for the labor. I work with the guy and he has NO car knowledge...I can't stick it too him that bad
But if it needs more than the timing belt, it is mine...and a new motor is definately in its future (V8
Thx again...you all have been very helpful

John

 

http://yotarepair.com/3VZ-Etimingbelt.html

 

Dude, I've seen you bash the 4.3 on other threads and I don't know what you've got against them. They're damn good engines. Labor.. whats labor?: a real man does his own work and can put that money saved into tools and better parts. It would be about the same price as if you were to build up any other engine that way. Let's see... $3200 for charger or about the same to put money into reliable power adders.
This is a never ending arguement anyway, so its over.

P.S. sorry to jack the thread

good luck with the truck