I just had my second set of LT 265/75R16 C Toyo Open Country AT's installed yesterday. I was very pleased with the ride of the first set, and their uniformity. I rarely had to have them re-balanced. The complete opposite of the Michelin LTX M/S I had prior to the first set of Toyo's, which rode harsh, and had to be rebalanced at every rotation.

I think Michelin is overrated.

The Toyo's were great on-road, in rain, snow, and the moderate off-roading they were subjected to. I never tried them in deep mud.

BTW, Nitto is a subsidiary of Toyo. So they are both quality tires.

My .02

 

They do?! Gah, thats awesome! Is that load range D or E?

 

I've had BF AT's and Revo's and for performance and longevity (esp in wet conditions - the Revo's were amazing in Portland while I was in school), I would go with the Revo's again. If you do a search on them, you'll read some very positive things. I think the BF's are better looking though. Good luck!

 

people go on about those nitto's pretty good, for the $ you'd save it might be worth checking them out, they are supposed to be sick on packed snow and ice.

but i never had a single problem with bfg's in rain or anything else for the 80k or so i ran them, just mud and real deep snow

 

Try Firestone Destination I have them on my 99" 4-runner best deal for your buck, go to Tirerack.com and check out ratings before you buy

 

Yep,the warranty is new and I'm sure it covers both load ranges but on a Runner load range D is as high as you'd want to go.

If one doesn't really see off road much and those off roads are just a little rough I think Nittos or BFGs might be a bad choice and Revos might be overall better for the street.


To most BFG owners they think their rain control is good but once you drive a TG equipped truck there is a considerable difference in where hydroplaning will begin and the Nittos have a bigger margin of error. BFGs have had the same tread pattern for as long as I can remember and hasn't changed but the inside construction is improved but the wet handling is still subpar when compared to a few of the competition.

 

When did it go into effect?

 

Well,I noticed about two weeks ago when I was looking up some Nittos for a friend on Discount's website so I'm guessing it was quite recently.

I'm hard on my Nittos and they will see 50k before i replace them with a new set.

 

With all this talk about nittos and revos and BFG's It has got me thinking as well.

I will not hide that the looks of the BFG is almost enough to sell me on thme right there. BUTi am practical and know that 99% of the driving will be on road at least until another DD comes around.

And wet/ice handling IS very importants around here. It seems like i have heard some real bad things about the revos and TG? Things like they don't preform as advertized? No personal experinace at all as i have never bought an AT tire before.

What are the down sides to them? and are they REALLY as good as ya'll say (i know there even i tend to forget some of the bad about things that i like and want others to get... ;-))

 

Man...I go away for a day or 2 and you guys gave some great feedback.

XAWD - Good eval of the Nitto's. Sounds like you drive in a lot of the same conditions as I do. The only feedback I had on them before this was on my buddy's 04 CTD Quad Cab Longbed and he tows 10k lbs on an almost daily basis and he gets 25k per set, not to mention he drives that Cummins like a pissed off 16 year old on crack.

 

I Replaced The Bridgestone Duelers That Came With The Vehicle With Cooper Discoverer Atr. They Are Very Quiet On The Road, But Agressive Enough To Handle Chicago Snow And Some Good Mudding Up In Lake County.:d

 

BFG look good but they don't perform as well as the Bridgestone Revo's. I'm in a lot of snow in CO and put 55K miles on my Revo's. Never had to have them rebalanced once. Went the cheap route and replaced the Revo's with Yoko Geolanders AT-II. Noisy as hell, rebalanced 3 times in 40K miles and they spin like hell in the rain. They are good in snow but Revo's cut their ass. Wasn't worth the 200 bucks I saved.

 

This is my exact experience as well. I have 15K on my Toyo's (replaced Michelin LTX's) and they are quiet, well balanced, and a good all around tire. They are also one of the lightest tires out there if I recall correctly.

 

Thanks for all the input guys. After looking at $$$ I ended up with the Nittos and so far have been pleased. I got them this morning.

Left the tire shop and drove back up to school. 210 miles. Loved them on the road. Much better manners than my MTR's. After stopping at my house I headed out to Callalantee ORV in Mtn City, TN to meet up with some of the guys I usually wheel with. These ROCK on the trail. Had no trouble negotiating a trail dusted in snow with leaves that had fallen all over the rocks. Ive run the same rock garden/trail in dry conditions with my old MTR's and these Terra Grapplers did better in the adverse conditions than the old tires in great weather.

Thumbs up for Ronnie White's Pro Tire in Raliegh, NC and Nitto.

 

 

Will post pics after we get back from wheelin at Callalantee again today.

 

No AT tire will perform that great in the snow but between the BFGs and the Nittos the TGs are superior in anything wet. I've had decent performance in the snow and ice from my Nittos and I don't hesitate to go play when the snow gets deep.

 

I can't wait for it to snow here so I can play too! haha.