OPTIMA -- Red Top or Yellow Top
Jun 27, 2003 | 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by Los Gatos?
1) I don't think they will find out...
2) I don't think that's true to begin with
3) Get the yellow top
1) I don't think they will find out...
2) I don't think that's true to begin with
3) Get the yellow top
Haha, i like this guy, man he's about as blunt as they come. haha!Personally, I prefer the 9v CopperTop for starting, those duracells are good.
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Jun 27, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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cut this from the Optima site, this should clear up alot of questions we seen so far in this thread, in short, the Yellow Top is the way to go for what you are wanting to do. And from the research I just did, Optima says that the Yellow Top is fine for Starting for heavily accesorized vehicles like ours:
17. When should I use a Deep Cycle OPTIMA as a Starting battery?
"Deep Cycle" batteries are designed for applications that require deep, repetitive amperage drain, like trolling motors, golf carts, and electric wheelchairs, or RV house power sources. However, there are other applications, called "Heavy Cycling" or "High Cycling", when a Deep Cycle OPTIMA can successfully replace a starting battery to provide longer life and better performance.
In heavy cycling or high cycling applications, a vehicle will pull unusually high amperage levels from the starting battery due to extra accessories or limited alternator capacity. Public safety professionals, such as police, fire, and ambulance fleet managers often find that traditional starting batteries cannot provide adequate life and performance due to heavy cycling. This is an excellent opportunity to provide your customer with longer life and better performance by using an OPTIMA Deep Cycle battery in this type of application.
In any vehicle or equipment that will use the battery only for Starting, Lighting, & Ignition requirements and has a properly working alternator, the OPTIMA Red Top Starting Battery will perform extremely well, often providing up to two to three times longer life than conventional batteries. If the vehicle has few or no after-market accessories and uses a stock or upgraded alternator, the OPTIMA Red Top Starting Battery is the appropriate choice.
Remember, it is possible for the customer to have a completely discharged Yellow Top OPTIMA that will not start their engine; the advantages of the Yellow Top are that it can accept a rapid recharge and it will recover from discharge many more times.
To provide the customer the best OPTIMA solution, it is, necessary to consider both the application and the charging system before recommending the correct OPTIMA. For example, if your customer has a Ford Expedition
with an after-market alarm system, which OPTIMA would you recommend? If the customer drives the car every day, the Red Top would be the correct choice, since the amperage drain will be nominal and the battery would be recharged on a daily basis. However, if the customer stores the vehicle for a long period of time with the alarm system engaged, you should recommend the OPTIMA Yellow Top, since the amperage drain over several weeks would damage a Red Top and reduce its life.
"Deep Cycle" batteries are designed for applications that require deep, repetitive amperage drain, like trolling motors, golf carts, and electric wheelchairs, or RV house power sources. However, there are other applications, called "Heavy Cycling" or "High Cycling", when a Deep Cycle OPTIMA can successfully replace a starting battery to provide longer life and better performance.
In heavy cycling or high cycling applications, a vehicle will pull unusually high amperage levels from the starting battery due to extra accessories or limited alternator capacity. Public safety professionals, such as police, fire, and ambulance fleet managers often find that traditional starting batteries cannot provide adequate life and performance due to heavy cycling. This is an excellent opportunity to provide your customer with longer life and better performance by using an OPTIMA Deep Cycle battery in this type of application.
In any vehicle or equipment that will use the battery only for Starting, Lighting, & Ignition requirements and has a properly working alternator, the OPTIMA Red Top Starting Battery will perform extremely well, often providing up to two to three times longer life than conventional batteries. If the vehicle has few or no after-market accessories and uses a stock or upgraded alternator, the OPTIMA Red Top Starting Battery is the appropriate choice.
Remember, it is possible for the customer to have a completely discharged Yellow Top OPTIMA that will not start their engine; the advantages of the Yellow Top are that it can accept a rapid recharge and it will recover from discharge many more times.
To provide the customer the best OPTIMA solution, it is, necessary to consider both the application and the charging system before recommending the correct OPTIMA. For example, if your customer has a Ford Expedition
with an after-market alarm system, which OPTIMA would you recommend? If the customer drives the car every day, the Red Top would be the correct choice, since the amperage drain will be nominal and the battery would be recharged on a daily basis. However, if the customer stores the vehicle for a long period of time with the alarm system engaged, you should recommend the OPTIMA Yellow Top, since the amperage drain over several weeks would damage a Red Top and reduce its life.
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Jun 27, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Re: Blue
Originally posted by BigBadBlue
I didnt care about what the blue battery does being its a marine type battery. I wanted it because well uh my 4Runner is blue.
I didnt care about what the blue battery does being its a marine type battery. I wanted it because well uh my 4Runner is blue.
Jun 27, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Re: Blue
Originally posted by BigBadBlue
I wanna be a smurf but still be 6 foot.
I wanna be a smurf but still be 6 foot.
Jun 28, 2003 | 02:47 AM
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Ohhhhh hkaaaayyyyy
Anyway, nevermind the smurf stuff and back to batteries. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say either the red or yellow (or blue if you're into that) will start your truck. I dont have any acsessories (yet) or money for that matter so the red worked out pretty well for me. If you have (or are going to have) a winch, lights, stereo whatever, the yellow is going to be a better choice. But I bet a red would still work.
In the end there is only one solution
BOTH!
Thats right cooperation makes it happen, cooperation, working together.
In the end there is only one solution
BOTH!
Thats right cooperation makes it happen, cooperation, working together.
Jun 28, 2003 | 06:33 AM
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Re: Ohhhhh hkaaaayyyyy
Originally posted by Mossback74
If you have (or are going to have) a winch, lights, stereo whatever, the yellow is going to be a better choice. But I bet a red would still work.
If you have (or are going to have) a winch, lights, stereo whatever, the yellow is going to be a better choice. But I bet a red would still work.
Jun 28, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by BigBadBlue
I just like the color blue, im not sure what kinda crack your dealer has you smokin but you sounded like your not running on all ur cylinders.
I just like the color blue, im not sure what kinda crack your dealer has you smokin but you sounded like your not running on all ur cylinders.
Jun 29, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Poboy looos good, how do you have it wired up? I was thinking along the lines of a rear cargo area mount job but wanted to see if anyone has done it. I am looking to power my KC's without bogging down my engine while climbing at night.
Jun 29, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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What do you mean by wired up? How is the battery mounted? That box has a bottom too...so I bolted the battery to the box from below. Worked well. I just took the whole thing out though. Wanna buy it 
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Jun 29, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by PoBoy
What do you mean by wired up? How is the battery mounted? That box has a bottom too...so I bolted the battery to the box from below. Worked well. I just took the whole thing out though. Wanna buy it ?
What do you mean by wired up? How is the battery mounted? That box has a bottom too...so I bolted the battery to the box from below. Worked well. I just took the whole thing out though. Wanna buy it
?
Jun 29, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Paralell. There are kits for like $25 that you can buy to wire them up. I ran duals for 3 years with stock alternator. Of course I had the red top as my main and yellow top as my spare...so the alternator had to crank, but not nearly as hard as non charging batteries. I never had a problem with them and my stock alternator. And with all the electronics that I have/had in there...it called for some serious power. My guess is the deepcell in back but a big relief on the alternator being deep cell and all...
