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MSD DIGITAL IGNITION 3rd Gen Anyone want to see pics? write up?

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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Tim, I don't think anyone is writing off the MSD unit right as of yet, but it's human nature for people to be skeptical about how much benefit they will recieve from such an addition (so many products are out there, but so few deliver what's promised). I think I could speak for a vast majority of the curious on YT when I say I do look forward to dyno runs before and after if you can manage to sneak them in.
I hear you,,,,alot of times people are skeptical,,,,,I remember when I slapped together my Volvo turbo wagon and was on the Volvo message board, many people at that time doubted the MSD and a couple other of the mods I made which people didnt make, such as opening up the spark plug gaps, running alot more total timing and running 10.4 mm spark plug wires....the car ended up running 15.2 quarter times,,, 2 - 3 tenths quicker,,,,quite a bit quicker then many other cars that had more of the common Volvo mods...sometimes it is aggravating to hear nay saying,,,and not that anyone here was doing that, just gets frustrating at some points

I do hope to get it on the dyno but with my schedule, work, real estate, house shopping, my camaro my girlfriend,,,then my friends schedule, not sure if I will be able to dyno it,,,we shall see,,,I will however continue to post on this thread with pics, write up etc

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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I run this set up here, with denso Irid plugs. I think it helps out a little bit, I gave $90 on ebay, took about 25 minutes to install.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:00 AM
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gettin' jiggy wit it...on the prewire



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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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does that work on DIS (coil pack(s) or individual coil packs), like on 3rd gen?
whats teh brand?
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I run this set up here, with denso Irid plugs. I think it helps out a little bit, I gave $90 on ebay, took about 25 minutes to install.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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hey boston4runner,

are there any other unit of MSD thats smaller for DIS? that thing is huge and too fancy. i think thats an overkill. i mean, youre only after a hotter spark, right?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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I got it in a trade deal which is why I am using it, plus think MSD makes a great product

it wires into the three different coil packs...this is going into my 3rd gen
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by profuse007
hey boston4runner,

are there any other unit of MSD thats smaller for DIS? that thing is huge and too fancy. i think thats an overkill. i mean, youre only after a hotter spark, right?
Overkill perhaps, but you are talking to a guy who is putting an M12000 Warn Winch on his 4Runner haha!

I may fire it tonight, I have all the wiring set up...

This is what I did though will take pics. Hopefully this is not too confusing

The one place I had to cut the harness was at the coils. I cut the coil harness far enough back so that I could put blue insulated connectors on them, these were female ends, then where I cut them on the other side I put male ends, this is the part with the plug that attaches to the coils...

This way I can unplug it from the coil, then disconnect the male from the female connectors, so that my MSD leads will plug into the coil / engine harness and my new coil plugs also coming from the MSD will plut directly onto the coils...

This will also allow me to swap back to the factory set up in a matter of 15 minutes should the unit ever fail,,,however there is a special wire plug that comes with the MSD box....should the unit fail, you unplug the harness, then attach this special wire plug....it jumps all the wires so that the vehicle reverts back to the factory set up,,,,without having to disconnect the MSD and all of your connections...

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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After a weekend of relaxing, surfing, fishing,,,I figured I would finish up on the ignition. I got home, wired it up and started it.

I was not able to get it on the dyno, but it is easy to disable, make an initial run without the MSD then another with. I just have to see if I can get it in there.

I also will do some mileage testing....from driving it I didnt feel a difference at all, until I took it on the highway and the midrange and high rpm pulling, to me, is DEFINITELY improved.

I didnt have my camera to take pictures, but should have it tonight, then will take pictures and post them up. The install was simple and can be handled by anyone with basic mechanical and wiring skills.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BOSTON4RUNNER
I also will do some mileage testing....from driving it I didnt feel a difference at all, until I took it on the highway and the midrange and high rpm pulling, to me, is DEFINITELY improved.
So, I'm still curious...

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My curiosity is based around specifically what the system is doing to achieve those gains. Hotter spark, longer dwell, ???
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what does the MSD promise as a deliverable? More spark energy? Longer duration? Ringing?
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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found this online,,,whatever this means

The all new MSD Digital-6 Plus Ignition Control embraces advanced digital technology to take performance ignitions into the future. No other digital ignition can match the power and efficiency of the all new MSD Digital-6 Plus.

MSD combines race winning experience with cutting edge technology to create the most powerful Digital Ignition available! The Digital-6 Plus is Digital Done Right!

The heart of the Digital-6 Plus Ignition is a 15 Megahertz microcontroller, the fastest of all digital ignitions. What this means is the controller analyzes up to 15,000,000 critical instructions per second! This is over three times the speed of comparable ignitions and produces the most accurate trigger signals, timing and rev limits possible.
MSD engineers have spent an endless amount of time testing the components of the Digital-6 Plus to ensure the most efficient and reliable operation. The 6 Plus produces more power with less current draw (20% less) by incorporating an IGBT coil driver that can be controlled for improved coil saturation. Also, power MOSFET technology and high frequency magnetic converters require less input current while producing more energy and voltage.
Every spark of the Digital-6 Plus ignition is packed with 135 millijoules of spark energy and up to 535 volts. Below 3,300 rpm the Digital-6 Plus produces a series of sparks that glows in the cylinder for up to 20° of crankshaft rotation. This incredible heat ensures combustion to produce great power, quick throttle response, smooth idle and quick starts.
To prevent any chance of Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) a filter circuit is made up of state-of-the-art magnetic suppressor components. This, combined with the more than competent microcontroller, checks and rechecks inputs many times to determine “clean” signals before making any compensations. The magnetic input also features a unique microcontrolled feedback circuit for total EMI-free operation.

Features of the Digital 6 include: The ability to switch between two rev limits that adjust with rotary switches in 100 rpm increments. A single stage retard for nitrous and top end performance. A Start retard that eases pressure on the starter, flywheel and engine. Adjustable magnetic pickup compensation that produces accurate trigger signals. An LED display warns of trigger signal problems or faulty charging system. Unit is fully potted with polyurethane for vibration and water protection.

The all new Digital SCI+ Ignition Control delivers the power and accessories that make it ideal for street/strip sport compact cars! High output capacitive discharge sparks ensure complete combustion of the fuel mixture especially at high rpm. If a dose of nitrous is being injected, there is a retard stage that can be activated automatically to prevent detonation from the increased cylinder pressures. To assist with firm launches, there is also a rev limit that can be activated that will hold the engine at a steady rpm so you can launch at full power! The heart of the Digital SCI+ Ignition is a 15 Megahertz microcontroller, the fastest of all digital ignitions. This efficiency results in a smooth rev limit and accurate timing. The ignition installs easily to most engines equipped with a distributor.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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so here it is in the truck and running, will have to move it if I ever do a snorkel


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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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another shot, here you can see the tach adapters tucked below the air filter, I used short self tappers and checked beneathe to see there was plenty of room for them to go in without hitting the washer fluid bottle..

typically I use factory mounting holes but on this application, seemed like the best place

these are sealed units and can be completely submerged in water,,,unlike my air filter,,, I will have to remedy this soon with an airbox and snorkel


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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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another shot..


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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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here is a shot of the new leads that are connected to the MSD harness, these are the coil plugs you can see in earlier pictures...

as there is no direct plug in harness, using this spare coil plug set up made for an easy and clean install

I did have to cut each pair of wires for each coil,,,however I retained the factory plugs that snap onto the coil...I can completely swap over to a stock set up and run on the factory ignition in ten minutes if I wanted,,,also the MSD has a bypass plug which disables the MSD and runs through the factory igniton...this bypass plug takes seconds to plug in


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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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another shot, though am going to make it a little cleaner soon...


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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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if anyone has questions, or is going to wire one up, let me know, I would be glad to help...it was a fairly simple install, anyone with basic knowledge can do it...will post my MPG soon, after my first highway trip
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Good to hear you have it running,job well done, what octane are you using?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 04:14 AM
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just regular unleaded, if anything it will help when you get a bad batch of gas, allows for more complete combustion...

I am going to Maine this weekend, will do a mileage check...
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Hello Boston4Runner:
Thanks for all the pics and info so far. Just wondering, how did the roadtrip go last weekend? Any noticeable difference in performance or MPG?
Thanks, John
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Hello Boston4Runner:
Thanks for all the pics and info so far. Just wondering, how did the roadtrip go last weekend? Any noticeable difference in performance or MPG?
Thanks, John
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