95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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just torque it to spec. and use a new cotter pin on the castle nut. 105 ft-lb. as shown in the schematic above and then check it after a week or so. you may think about turning the balljoint stud 180° from where it's at now since that part of the ball (inside the boot) will be less worn because of the angle it's been at since the factory.

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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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Dayum!!!! I was on my way home yesterday and started hearing a hmmmmmm/grrrrrrrrrr type noise. It would come and go so I realy wasn't sure what it was. Got home and jacked the vehicle up and started in on some troubleshooting. Turns out my drivers front wheel bearing has gone/is going bad. Guess what I'll be doin' this weekend.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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Great, sounds like they aren't lasting as long as they should. maybe when I get all my shop stuff up here finally I'll go ahead and just replace both sides. they aren't making any noise but I'd rather not wait until they do.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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so the bearing is swapped, the knuckle is back in. THE MUFFLE RUBBING/GRINDING SOUND IS STILL THERE!!

I really can't tell now if it's coming from the driver side or the passenger side. All I can tell is the noise comes from underneath the driver seat, and it gets faster as the car gets faster....

What else can it be? What's next?

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 04:39 AM
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Could you possibly be hearing the brake pads scuffing on the rotors??

If not, the shop probably damaged the bearing in the press process.

Jack each corner seperately and rotate and try to wobble each tire. Start with the one yu just fixed. This should help isolate it to one wheel. If not, it's farther up the drive train.

I think I'm goina tackle mine this weekend (busy, don't know if I'll get'r all done by monday) and have a friend loaning me their digi cam. I'll try to get "in process" pics of the pressin' process. This is by far the hardest "maintenance" I've ever had to do on a Toyota truck but it's still totally doable.

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Does your front diff have fluid? If so, when's that last time you changed it?
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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I haven't really given the fluid a thought, so I will do some re-checking this wkend.

I have noticed that I can feel a very very small vibration in the gas pedal + brake pedal while this "humming" noise occurs.

What's the likelihood that the this small vibration is coming from the right side of the vehicle (I replaced the left front bearing)? How 'bout from the back?
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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Is your rig lifted? Is it a taco or a 4runner? Have you jacked up the rear and had someone put in gear to see if the sound is coming from your drive train?

I had a similar problem with mine and I just lowered my carrier bearing and that helped with my taco.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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you lowered your carrier bearing?! how on earth did you do that?
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Usually peeps just take em loose and stack washers or somthing there abouts between the frame and the carrier bracket.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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I think you're talking about the whole diff. the carrier bearings are inside, on each side of the carrier, the carrier is what the ring is bolted to.

like these:

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Nah. The carrier bearing for the xtra cab or long bed. They have a 2 pc. rear driveshaft with a "carrier" bearing supporting the middle joint.

You can see it here in this pic

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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ahh, ok then, I always called it a Center Support Bearing - here it is in all it's glory: but it's not going to help him since he's got a '98 4Runner, no "carrier bearing."

http://www.ttora-ne.com/old_site/tto...a_cab_taco.htm


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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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no tacos or lifts, just a stock 3gen 4runner. i've going to do some serious investigating this weekend, any possible sites I should look at specifically? So far Keisur said front diff fluids...
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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also maybe check the brakes like slopoke said above, may even have a bent backing plate that is rubbing something.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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i discovered something while driving today. when i gradually slowed my car from ~30mph to 0mph, i feel slight vibration & very constant studders (as if the car had feet & it's dragging its feet). Not large enough to shake the steering wheel, but enough that I feel the vibrations on the brake pedal.

is this a sign of a warped rotor?

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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Badmice1
so the bearing is swapped, the knuckle is back in. THE MUFFLE RUBBING/GRINDING SOUND IS STILL THERE!!

I really can't tell now if it's coming from the driver side or the passenger side. All I can tell is the noise comes from underneath the driver seat, and it gets faster as the car gets faster....

What else can it be? What's next?
I'm in the same boat as you, same symptoms. You might wanna check this thread:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/rub-moan-squeak-front-end-4runner-please-help-47923/

I'm replacing a tie rod end and the rack bushings this weekend, but I don't have a lot of hope. They NEED replacing, but I'm starting to wonder if it's a CV. The thoughts of bushings and a tie rod end came from this thread:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/steering-rack-movement-sound-can-you-help-me-out-46028/


I'm also starting to think that it may be a knuckle bushing:
https://www.yotatech.com/~corey/tech...imrockford.htm


Other folks have suggested that it could be something as simple as the dust cover rubbing on the rotor. I don't think that's it though.

Fun times.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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I'm also starting to think that it may be a knuckle bushing:
https://www.yotatech.com/~corey/tech...imrockford.htm
Fun times.
I thought your hubs were the same as ours. are your auto's like that '91?
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by keisur
I thought your hubs were the same as ours. are your auto's like that '91?
Uh-oh... I'm showing my green.

Umm, honestly, I looked through that thread and hit on that page 'cause the symptoms were the same. My guess is that you're right - it would certainly explain why I couldn't find those bushings for a 96.


Okay... I can go now - I learned something today.

Thanks Keisur! That's one less thing to look at!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Midi - Thanks, man! I will consider looking into the bushing. I don't have a machine press though, so this job may be reserved for the shop (I have sealed bearings). Can I pull this job off w/o a machine press?

This problem is not fixed, but it hasn't worsen either. I agree that it can only be something in the hub. I don't have any CV boot damages, so I will not consider taking off the axle, unless necessary.

Anything else? I'm running out of ideas.

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