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All-Pro Rear Disc Brakes: Gauging Interest

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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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I hate my OEM drums. I'd be all over this for $600...IF parts were readily available. Personally, an ebrake isn't an issue for me. I never use it.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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I'd love to have rear disks. Driving a 5spd, i use my e-brake all the time so it's a must. $600 sounds good.

I do not want a t-case mounted e-brake.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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i said mabey. and if i was going to get it it owuld have to have the parking brake. also i would like the largest possible disc the stock wheel could handel and the option to upgrade to larger rotors
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Wow, honestly $600 seems a bit much for the rear brakes considering how little actual braking they do. There is so much i could do with $600.00.... brushguard, save towards SC, nice rims, screens and a dvd player, go to the dollar store and buy 600 things LOL.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Every vechicle i've ever driven with rear disks stops WAY better than ones with rear drums. Improvement is huge and worth the money.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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i'd rather spend $600 on my front brakes. err..actually, i pretty much did w/ the tundra upgrade. my rears work fine, keep em adjusted properly, and they work as well as i want them to. if i were to spend any more money on brakes..i'd go wilwood 6pot up front or something rediculous like that. but my runner is a canyon crawler, and not a canyon carver so i dont need the benefits of rear discs...

that said..i remember reading on a FF rear setup with working ebrake rear discs. it included manual hubs and a set of older supra/celica binders & rotors. included with the kit was the mounting bracket. it may have been the FROR setup..cant remember. was from a couple years ago...
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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You guys are talking about a kit for a car.

Upgrading to larger rotors later? AP makes off road stuff.

Everything I have ever driven with 4 wheel disks stops great. It is because they are sports cars.

You can use some Supra stuff.

FWIW, I don't have an e-brake right now because I didn't put one back together. With an auto, I am hardly missing it.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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See the big thing for me is how much work and $$ is going to be involved to get my rear drums back up to snuff. They are junk right now. Drums, shoes, a bearing...all shot. I have access to a press at work (I think), so the bearing labor will be pretty much the same anyway.

Another thing to consider is the increased velocity of my rig with the mods I have. I mean, I am probably pushing 250HP (at least) and the only thing I have done is upgraded the front pads. This thing is downright scary right now with oil on the shoes. Dangerous is probably a better word.

I am split 50/50 at "restoring" my drum brakes or pushing for a kit like this and figuring out the e-brake thing. Argh! I have to make a move fairly soon.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Prado 90's come with rear disc brakes. has anyone looked into that option? I dont have access to toyota's EPC.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:01 AM
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has anybody thought of these being useful for towing? one thing about towing people dont understand that is power isnt everything, but being able to stop your load is!
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
See the big thing for me is how much work and $$ is going to be involved to get my rear drums back up to snuff. They are junk right now. Drums, shoes, a bearing...all shot. I have access to a press at work (I think), so the bearing labor will be pretty much the same anyway.

Another thing to consider is the increased velocity of my rig with the mods I have. I mean, I am probably pushing 250HP (at least) and the only thing I have done is upgraded the front pads. This thing is downright scary right now with oil on the shoes. Dangerous is probably a better word.

I am split 50/50 at "restoring" my drum brakes or pushing for a kit like this and figuring out the e-brake thing. Argh! I have to make a move fairly soon.
Christian, if I were going to try it I'd probably just get a set of the brackets and then piece the set together yourself instead of forking over all the money for an APOR kit that uses their crappy transfer case brake (I'd use the Caddy rear calipers with the mechanical ebrake built in). The only part of the kit that wouldn't be off the shelf would be the mounting bracket and the rotors (all the rest can be readily had from chevy trucks available at most auto parts stores). The rotors can be made by getting a set of chevy truck rotors and having a machine shop turn the centers to 4.3125" (I believe they are the same diameter as early models, double check this first) diameter. You're going to have to turn a spare set anyway in case you have issues with the first set at some later date. The brackets I think can be gotten from a guy that goes by http://www.muchadoproductions.com/forums/member.php?u=13 so you might try emailing him and see if he might fab up some brackets or at least give you the dimensions so you might be able to get SS to fab something up for you out there in AZ. It is definately doable and in your situation I might give it a try......besides you might create quite a wave if you actually pull it off in the $250-300 range with a decent ebrake. Even Brian (Wabfab) might be interested in fabbing/supplying brakets for this so he'd be someone to PM as well.

Here's a few that used those Cadillac rear calipers with the mechanical parking brake:
http://www.naxja.org/html/techarticl...Conversion.htm
http://coloradok5.com/atrondiskbrakes.shtml

Few more writeups:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452546
http://www.pirate4x4.com/productreviews/skybrakes/
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
I have access to a press at work (I think), so the bearing labor will be pretty much the same anyway.
Got the special tool? Your dead in the water without the tool.

Rear Poly Performance Cro-Mo axles, new bearings, seals, etc. Were about the same cost.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
Rear brakes do 30% or less of total braking.

I know more braking is better, but even if discs stop 100% better than drums, that is small total improvement.
you must not haul anything with your yota. i know with a full load of firewood or a large trailer im postive that the rear dums are easyly 50% of the breaking.

so a 100% better than 50% when towing would be a 100% improvement over stock.

not to mention larger tires....
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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Well, be positive.

I have a pretty built rock crawling 4runner, so you are right, I hardly even haul tail.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
Got the special tool? Your dead in the water without the tool.

Rear Poly Performance Cro-Mo axles, new bearings, seals, etc. Were about the same cost.
No I don't have the SST. Thanks for pointing that out Steve. I might just have the dealer do the R&R then I guess. Unless you know of someone I should go to for this...
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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I have been looking into the rear wheels of SUV's in parking lots and I noticed that Xterra's have rear disc brakes and are 6-lug like us...

Hmmm...
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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Why does this thread keep poping back up as unread?
.....seems to be the only one that does that.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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I'd also be interested but must have an e-brake.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Why does this thread keep poping back up as unread?
.....seems to be the only one that does that.
Everytime a vote is entered in the pole it shows up as an unread thread...
At least thats what I have noticed...
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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it would be far easier to retro fit the 4th gen rear disc brake system, this is what I have plans to eventually do.
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