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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hayes
what are you doing with your t-cases?
I'm going to hang on to them for now, they might be going into the next project. I'll make sure to come up with a list of what I'm getting rid of as soon I get the final plan figured out for the Turbo 4Runner.

Originally Posted by Volcom
Ah man, that sucks bro. I understand about the streetablity issue and not having a tow rig. Maybe you can build another hardcore crawler in a couple of years?? You're always welcome to join us (ride along) on the tougher trips.
Yea, it sucks, but it's been a long time coming. I'm amazed I have not run into more issues, besides the body damage. I still plan to be able to run most the trails out there, besides for the nasty ones (mainly Carnage, but whatever else falls into that catagory). Thanks for offering a spare seat, I'll have to take you up on that some time.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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aww man this was a very cool build to watch and it is sad to see it gone but i understand why you are doing it. good luck on your next build, the turbo runner is super clean looking.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 85toy
aww man this was a very cool build to watch and it is sad to see it gone but i understand why you are doing it. good luck on your next build, the turbo runner is super clean looking.
Thanks! It was pretty hard to do but it's for the best, I just can't afford it and everything that needs to go with it. I'm still planning on the Turbo 4Runner being able to run most of my favorite trails, just not the super nasty ones and I'll have to be careful what lines I take (I'll also have to know when to park it and walk up the rest of the trail). I've starting working on it already, but I'm waiting to post a build-up thread until I finalize how I want to build it .
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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You planning on SAS'ing the turbo and using your current front axle or keeping it IFS? I think if you did the SAS, kept it low using some 3" springs or hybrid packs like your 85, on 35's, and dual cased that should keep it streetable yet get you to the top of HC and around Chinamans without a problem.

What do you plan on doing with your wheels that you just put new wheel stiffeners on? And your brand new 37" MTR's?

Whatever happens, make sure your junk is ready for next summer
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Volcom
You planning on SAS'ing the turbo and using your current front axle or keeping it IFS? I think if you did the SAS, kept it low using some 3" springs or hybrid packs like your 85, on 35's, and dual cased that should keep it streetable yet get you to the top of HC and around Chinamans without a problem.

What do you plan on doing with your wheels that you just put new wheel stiffeners on? And your brand new 37" MTR's?

Whatever happens, make sure your junk is ready for next summer
At first I was planning on using a Total Chaos kit and going long travel IFS, but after putting some numbers together I think I'm going to SAS it. Once you start adding up all the parts that need to go with the kit it gets pretty expensive. I also have a feeling that I might get myself into trouble if I had that kind of suspension. Since I already have the front axle with all the goodie's, I figure SAS would be the way to go. I also feel that for an all around daily driver, trail truck and expedition type vehicle that a solid front axle would be a better choice than a LT IFS system.

You pretty much nailed the set-up. I'm thinking some 3" TG front springs, 4" TG rear springs and 35's. I'm thinking that should be a pretty good all around set-up. I will also have swap the rear spool and front Lock Right for some ARB's or E-Lockers.

As for the tires, Tim (who was riding shotgun with me on Carnage) is going to buy my wheels and tires for his 4Runner. He should put them to good use.

The plan is to have the thing ready for this spring, we'll have to see how that works out.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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As much as I think LT is cool and would be fun, it's not the correct setup for you. I've seen you drive

Those wheels/tires should work out well for Tim.

You might look into a set of these to keep your rear 4Runner body in decent shape. Glad you'll be back up by spring
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Volcom
As much as I think LT is cool and would be fun, it's not the correct setup for you. I've seen you drive

Those wheels/tires should work out well for Tim.

You might look into a set of these to keep your rear 4Runner body in decent shape. Glad you'll be back up by spring


You have a point, but I'm not going to be driving like that any more. When I first built the green 4Runner I knew that the body would get destroyed, so that was the attitude I had when wheeling. The Turbo 4Runner is different, if I have to take the easy line, I will .

I've seen those corner panel protectors before, they seem to be a great product. I thought about using them but I really don't want to drill any holes in the body. Instead I built this, not quite as much protection but it should help. I'll have more pictures on the build thread.

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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That's such a clean Turbo!!! I wish I could find a clean Turbo 4Runner for a DD. I'd totally rock one around town
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Wow.

I found this thread a couple of hours ago, and damn... it read like a really good action/adventure novel right down to the noble death of the main character at the end and the foreshadowing of the rise of a new conquerer in the future.

Sweetness.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Volcom
That's such a clean Turbo!!! I wish I could find a clean Turbo 4Runner for a DD. I'd totally rock one around town
Yea it really is , that's why I want to keep it nice. It should be pretty awesome once it's all done!

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Wow.

I found this thread a couple of hours ago, and damn... it read like a really good action/adventure novel right down to the noble death of the main character at the end and the foreshadowing of the rise of a new conquerer in the future.

Sweetness.


I was a little bummed about cutting up the old truck, but as soon as I read this I had to smile/laugh and look at the whole situation a little bit different. Thanks
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DIRTCO
I was a little bummed about cutting up the old truck, but as soon as I read this I had to smile/laugh and look at the whole situation a little bit different. Thanks
You're welcome Man. Thank-you for being so detailed and specific with the whole thread.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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The turbo runner will be a classic someday

It's a bad idea To SAS such an original specimen! I think you might regreat cutting off all the original mounts for the front suspension. once you cut them off....there's NO going back! Think before you cut. LT suspension is expensive but if you SAS it, it may someday see the same demise as your 85.
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rustpyro
It's a bad idea To SAS such an original specimen! I think you might regreat cutting off all the original mounts for the front suspension. once you cut them off....there's NO going back! Think before you cut. LT suspension is expensive but if you SAS it, it may someday see the same demise as your 85.
You bring up valid points and I respect your point of view. That being said, I have spent many hours thinking about this very subject and I truly believe I'm making the best choice, for me.

First, it's not a museum piece. It is in great shape, but it still has it's flaws. The body does have dents and dings, there is some rust and the interior is a little worn. Overall it is very nice, but not perfect. If it was a factory original, low mileage, MINT Turbo 4Runner I would not change a thing on it.

Whether you go LT (long travel IFS) or SAS, there's cutting and going back to stock isn't easy, if at all possible. Installing a LT kit might not require as much cutting, but there's still no going back. In either case you are removing crucial suspension brackets / components and would be better off doing a full frame swap if you wanted to return it to stock. In addition to that, a LT kit is just looking for trouble in a nice vehicle. High speed + off road = trouble, the possibility of completely destroying your vehicle (in my opinion), is a lot higher in a LT rig. Even if you take it easy on the vehicle you still have to deal with broken CV's, idler arms and alignment issues. Long travel suspension has its place, but that's not in the Rocky Mountains with a daily driver.

I'm working on keeping this an all around rig, I don't want a rockcrawler and I don't want a desert racing truck (although I would love to have one of each ). I'm pretty much building a super capable expedition style vehicle that can do it all. Ever since I built the last truck I've missed the ability to pack up, drive a couple hundred miles and explore the area. There's so many places out there that I have not been and it will be great to check them out (in comfort). It will also be nice to have a super capable vehicle that will get me out of almost any situation i might get into. There's a reason why Australia never switched over to IFS, and why most of the "Outback" style races are won with solid front axles. Reliability!

As for the Turbo 4Runner meeting the same fate as the 85' 4Runner, I have to disagree. When I first started building the 85' I knew its fate, I'm kind of surprised that it lasted as long as it did. For how hard I wheeled the thing, put on a show for everyone watching (with tow rigs and trailers), and then driving the thing home 99% of the time, it did pretty damn well. The Turbo 4Runner is different, I could really care less about "putting on a show" or running the hardest trails around, I just want to have fun. I don't mind taking the easy line or altogether stopping and turning around, this will be one of the cleanest rigs on the trail and I don't mind keeping it that way.

As much as you love the truck and want to keep it stock; I want to explore and experience as much as I can. It's comfortable and fun to drive I'm very excited about taking it to next level in performance and capability. I have no plans of selling it, so I might as well enjoy it however I can and build it the way that makes me happy. After all, the highway can be a pretty dangerous place and you never know when someone might take you out, I'd rather take my chances on the trail.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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As much as it sucks, it had to be done. RIP











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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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With every end there has to be some kind of a beginning, that is here with the Turbo 4Runner. It's still sad to see it end this way

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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dang dude, that hurts me.
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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are you going to try and save the frame?
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 881stGenRunner
are you going to try and save the frame?
The frame and body are completly gone. I thought about saving the frame for a possible F-toy build one day but I didn't have a place to keep it.
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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is the rear bumper gone 2
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