Why are BFG AT's not higher up on everyones' list?
#121
I recently picked up some 265/75/16 BFG At KOs b/c I found a good deal on craigslist. I currently have street tires so these are a def step up. I have had Yokohama Geolander AT + IIs before and liked them (diff vehicle), so they would have been another option if I bough new (or the Nitto TGs). For $220 for 4 ~new BFGs I am stoked.
#123
#124
Yes, thanks. I also have some new sliders sittin' in the garage that I need to get painted and welded on. I had to buy all the car stuff I wanted now before I realize how much a kid is going to cost me
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BTW, where did I mention out loud my wife and I had a kid this week?
!BTW, where did I mention out loud my wife and I had a kid this week?
Last edited by Henrythewound; Jul 18, 2007 at 05:35 PM.
#125
Maybe the way y'all drive (
), but we run trails without tearing up stuff, nor without any particular winching and/or strapping, at least not more than non-IFS vehicles.Set up correctly we can run some pretty tough trails with no damage.
Not sure why you would assume that it couldn't be done.
The best offroad/rock crawling tire consensus, at least among the guys out here, and in utah, seems to be the Krawler. This, however, is not a road tire, and thus cannot be run on a DD truck without wearing out a $300 tire in a few thousand miles.
There is the DOT tire (blue sticker) that can be run on the road and will get decent tread life. Off road, those tires (in the rocks) have about the same traction as the MT/R's and a slight nod to sidewall strength over the MR/R.
The downside is the cost (more expensive than the MT/R's) and the weight. They are a really, really heavy tire.
The non DOT (comp) red labels certain will have no tread life if use on road. Maybe only a few thousand miles.
They are strictly an off road, comp. tire, expensive (more so than the blue labels) and heavy as are the blue labels.
Looking at the blue label Krawlers vs the MT/R's to me and most of those that I run with, the MT/R's have the heads up as the best "bang for the buck".

Fred
#126
#127
Ah that's not particularly true.
Maybe the way y'all drive (
), but we run trails without tearing up stuff, nor without any particular winching and/or strapping, at least not more than non-IFS vehicles.
Set up correctly we can run some pretty tough trails with no damage.
Not sure why you would assume that it couldn't be done.
Maybe the way y'all drive (
), but we run trails without tearing up stuff, nor without any particular winching and/or strapping, at least not more than non-IFS vehicles.Set up correctly we can run some pretty tough trails with no damage.
Not sure why you would assume that it couldn't be done.
My stuff works good out here, but i've seen the trails in AZ like Axle Alley, and those seem like they'd be a body damage run with an IFS on 33's like mine. You seemed to indicate the use of these tires in an extreme environment. The bunny trip reports i've seen are all run with many rigs using the BFG's.
Originally Posted by Fred TJ
You seem to be unaware that there are two flavors of the Krawlers.
There is the DOT tire (blue sticker) that can be run on the road and will get decent tread life. Off road, those tires (in the rocks) have about the same traction as the MT/R's and a slight nod to sidewall strength over the MR/R.
The downside is the cost (more expensive than the MT/R's) and the weight. They are a really, really heavy tire.
The non DOT (comp) red labels certain will have no tread life if use on road. Maybe only a few thousand miles.
They are strictly an off road, comp. tire, expensive (more so than the blue labels) and heavy as are the blue labels.
Looking at the blue label Krawlers vs the MT/R's to me and most of those that I run with, the MT/R's have the heads up as the best "bang for the buck".

Fred
There is the DOT tire (blue sticker) that can be run on the road and will get decent tread life. Off road, those tires (in the rocks) have about the same traction as the MT/R's and a slight nod to sidewall strength over the MR/R.
The downside is the cost (more expensive than the MT/R's) and the weight. They are a really, really heavy tire.
The non DOT (comp) red labels certain will have no tread life if use on road. Maybe only a few thousand miles.
They are strictly an off road, comp. tire, expensive (more so than the blue labels) and heavy as are the blue labels.
Looking at the blue label Krawlers vs the MT/R's to me and most of those that I run with, the MT/R's have the heads up as the best "bang for the buck".

Fred
I'm well aware of the two types of krawlers. I was trying to have a discussion. No need to be smug.
However, from those that have run the blue labels, which were the ones i was referring too, they seem to think they are the best. For the majority of the folks who i've had contact with, the priority was a road traveling tire, not for a trailer only rig. They were not pleased with the on road wear. However, as i stated, that is from a consensus amongst others. They don't make Krawlers in my size. The crew that just ran the UA did so with red label krawlers and the report is that they were cracking from the 1000 miles of road time.
Last edited by AxleIke; Jul 18, 2007 at 06:17 PM.
#133
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From: NW Ark on wooded ten acres...Ozarks at large!
The 33x9.50/15. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
EDIT: No....I just looked again. Tirerack is $131, Discount doesn't have that size, and Pepboys doesn't have BFG's at all.
EDIT: No....I just looked again. Tirerack is $131, Discount doesn't have that size, and Pepboys doesn't have BFG's at all.
Last edited by thook; Jul 22, 2007 at 03:59 PM.
#134
Hmm. Well, when i got mine, called pepboys, they said they didn't carry them in stock, but could get them. Discount had them, and would price match to pepboys. Got them at Discount at 117 per tire. There were two types, the old kind and the new kind. Old was 117, new was like 150 something. Had to do with the production of the tire. I told them i didn't care about ride, and got the old style.
However, this was not the quote i got off the web. Called the store direct. However, it's possible this deal isn't going on anymore.
However, this was not the quote i got off the web. Called the store direct. However, it's possible this deal isn't going on anymore.
#135
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When was this? By "old" kind, do you mean before they began siping the tread?
Well, if the deal is not around anymore I'll bide my time until another one does. At this point, I'm probably going to get some Kumho A/T's to cut corners, anyhow. Decent tire (for my application) for a really good price. Have to pay for my restoration vehicle somehow.
Well, if the deal is not around anymore I'll bide my time until another one does. At this point, I'm probably going to get some Kumho A/T's to cut corners, anyhow. Decent tire (for my application) for a really good price. Have to pay for my restoration vehicle somehow.
#138
BFG was taken over at somepoint by Goodyear, i believe. There is a new process by which they make the tires. Supposedly it is better, but i didn't like the price hike.
My tires are siped.
My recomendation is to wait for the deal that Pepboys does around the holidays. They just had one for 4th of July. That is, they offer a buy 3 get 1 free deal. Discount will price match. Wait for Pepboys sale, call discount, be polite and courteous, and get them to give you the 3 for 4 deal. That will cut your cost down considerably. Friend of mine just did this over the 4th. I got my tires the same way. 117 a tire, paid for 3 tires. Out the door for 400 bucks.
My tires are siped.
My recomendation is to wait for the deal that Pepboys does around the holidays. They just had one for 4th of July. That is, they offer a buy 3 get 1 free deal. Discount will price match. Wait for Pepboys sale, call discount, be polite and courteous, and get them to give you the 3 for 4 deal. That will cut your cost down considerably. Friend of mine just did this over the 4th. I got my tires the same way. 117 a tire, paid for 3 tires. Out the door for 400 bucks.
#139
I took my 4runner out with my new 31/10.50 -15 toyo A/T's and love them. I only do light trails but even then they did great. didn't have much of any problem in washout rock trails and light mud. Didn't go into the deep stuff cause i don't have any lockers. but the tires did really well very happy. and they are great on the road too.
#140
X - You win. =)
I just sold my firstborn for a set of Nittos in 285/65/18 for my F350. I couldn't stomach the price for BFG's in that size. Plus, the 1-ton diesel won't be seeing too much dirt other than jobsites and the sand dunes.
I just sold my firstborn for a set of Nittos in 285/65/18 for my F350. I couldn't stomach the price for BFG's in that size. Plus, the 1-ton diesel won't be seeing too much dirt other than jobsites and the sand dunes.
Last edited by toy_tek; Oct 12, 2007 at 09:07 PM.



Hmmm.....pep boys doesn't have BFG's. The other two are over $130 a tire.