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Thanks for the post. Im running those tires.Originally Posted by payyourtoll
looks like it only pertains to sizes 285/75/16, but I know plenty of you run them here. Check out the ad and be safe 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...stone_tires_dc
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Bridgestone/Firestone, why keep buying a product that has so many problems?
Mv
here's one reason, I got almost 90k out of a set of Dueler A/T's! Rotated every oil-change and checked proper inflation bi-weekly...Originally Posted by MvCrash
Greetings,Bridgestone/Firestone, why keep buying a product that has so many problems?
Mv
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Ummm....... most people that wheel AIR DOWN their tires.... I just took mine down to 14psi this weekend..(pics comming soon) One would expect that the bead might come of the rim WORST CASE. but for the threads to seperate ?????Originally Posted by Foo Fighter
well if u read the press release they state this seperation is due to running low air pressure or overloading the tires...what it boils down to is driver ignorance
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jimabena,
good post and youre right on the money: IMHO, most car owners don't know how to take care of their vehicles, let alone own a tire gauge!
bob
good post and youre right on the money: IMHO, most car owners don't know how to take care of their vehicles, let alone own a tire gauge!
bob
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There are alot of bad things that can happen from under inflated tires. Poor braking, roll overs, tread seperation which causes a blow out, lower hydroplane speeds just to name a few of them.
Having a tire under inflated causes over heating. We know over heating is a problem and would expect some safety factors built into the tires. I'm sure that all the other manufacturers of tires have the same type customers, ones that don't check tire pressure. I don't recall the last time another tire maker has a tread seperation problem caused by under inflation.
The other fact that no one mentions is that rapid airloss is not a reason to loose control of your vehicle. If handled properly (adding power is best), the rapid air loss, or blow out, should just be a nuisance rather than a trajedy. Most crashes (99.9%), I won't say all, that occurr after a rapid air loss are due to driver error. I don't blame any tire manufacturer for driver error. I would just rather know that more than likely my vehicle will get me home with out having to change a tire on the side of a highway which IS dangerous.
I check the pressure in my tires monthly. Most times they need adjustment, sometimes more than others. I would at least check the tire pressure during weather changes which in the north is 4 times a year. In my experience by the time you can see the pressure is low in a radial tire, its at least 10 lbs low.
It is very easy to identify driver error in a crash presumed to be caused by rapid air loss. At 50 miles per hour, the steering input that caused the crash would be approximately 120 feet from the first indication (tire marks) of the rapid air loss. If the air loss caused the steering input, the indication would be immediate.
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Having a tire under inflated causes over heating. We know over heating is a problem and would expect some safety factors built into the tires. I'm sure that all the other manufacturers of tires have the same type customers, ones that don't check tire pressure. I don't recall the last time another tire maker has a tread seperation problem caused by under inflation.
The other fact that no one mentions is that rapid airloss is not a reason to loose control of your vehicle. If handled properly (adding power is best), the rapid air loss, or blow out, should just be a nuisance rather than a trajedy. Most crashes (99.9%), I won't say all, that occurr after a rapid air loss are due to driver error. I don't blame any tire manufacturer for driver error. I would just rather know that more than likely my vehicle will get me home with out having to change a tire on the side of a highway which IS dangerous.
I check the pressure in my tires monthly. Most times they need adjustment, sometimes more than others. I would at least check the tire pressure during weather changes which in the north is 4 times a year. In my experience by the time you can see the pressure is low in a radial tire, its at least 10 lbs low.
It is very easy to identify driver error in a crash presumed to be caused by rapid air loss. At 50 miles per hour, the steering input that caused the crash would be approximately 120 feet from the first indication (tire marks) of the rapid air loss. If the air loss caused the steering input, the indication would be immediate.
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i dont think that's what they meant...as we all know that people that wheel are a very small percentage and we are the most thorough of the people. I believe they are referring to people running improper tire pressure on the highway...at speedOriginally Posted by 4Hummer
Ummm....... most people that wheel AIR DOWN their tires.... I just took mine down to 14psi this weekend..(pics comming soon) One would expect that the bead might come of the rim WORST CASE. but for the threads to seperate ?????
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Is there any way to tell if my specific tires are in the recall--I bought them in October of 03--making me think I'm fine. But who knows they could have sat in a back room for a while.....
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Gringo -
Your sig says you have Revos, these are for the "regular" Duelers, model 693.
Your sig says you have Revos, these are for the "regular" Duelers, model 693.
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There is a DOT code on the white letter side of the tire, If that code starts with EJLFCCB those are the recalled tires. ONLY for the 285/75R 16s DUELER A/T 693 D load.Originally Posted by Gringo
Is there any way to tell if my specific tires are in the recall--I bought them in October of 03--making me think I'm fine. But who knows they could have sat in a back room for a while.....
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Your sig says you have Revos, these are for the "regular" Duelers, model 693.
Thanks Loosehead--Your right--I'm glad becuase the nearest firestone is probably 1000 miles to the North.Originally Posted by loosehead
Gringo - Your sig says you have Revos, these are for the "regular" Duelers, model 693.
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I think Jimabena74's point is that Ford spec'd the pressure way too low at 26lbs, which is begging for trouble. With millions of Explorers out there running at too low pressure on the highway, problems are much more likely. I can't say who's wrong there, didn't Firestone know what Ford was recommending? Would Michelins running at 26PSI have done the same thing? How many tread seperations were there all toghether? It seemed like thousands, but knowing the nightly news it may have been a few hundred or few dozen. ( could probably look this up, but I'm lazy)Originally Posted by MvCrash
I'm sure that all the other manufacturers of tires have the same type customers, ones that don't check tire pressure. I don't recall the last time another tire maker has a tread seperation problem caused by under inflation.
Whatever happened before, what I see know is a tire maker taking responsibility for a problem, with what sounds like a good deal over a fairly small failure rate. I'm still planning on Revo's for my next tires.
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Thanks for the post!!!!
I have those tires, now just gotta reverify the DOT number and I'm getting a new set of tires!!
Great timing, I needed a new set of tires by the end of the year anyway.
Thanks again!!!!

I have those tires, now just gotta reverify the DOT number and I'm getting a new set of tires!!
Great timing, I needed a new set of tires by the end of the year anyway.
Thanks again!!!!

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Pirelli had serious belt problems in the past. I believe MTRs have some issues as well. At least bridgestone stepped up. I'm happy with mine and will probably go with those 285's myself.