Looking for a Little 411 Tire Help, Post Pics Please
#22
Everybody and their brother runs BFG ATs. They are a decent tire since they are tough , wear excellent, and have a good rubber compound - but IMO the tread pattern is outdated compared to other "hybrid/extreme AT tires" these days that offer superior traction on-road in situations like heavy rain ice and snow (since the BFGs tread pattern is so symmetrical w/o any real exit blocks for directing water out from under the tire). Don't get me wrong though as they are still a great tire, just not for me.
I would personally look into a more modern design tire tread pattern or just a more aggressive one (since you mentioned MTRs). Look at Goodyear Duratrac, Cooper ST Maxx, Falken Wildpeak, Nitto Terra Grapplers, ProComp Extreme AT, Firestone Destination At, Hankook Dunapro ATM, etc etc.
I would personally look into a more modern design tire tread pattern or just a more aggressive one (since you mentioned MTRs). Look at Goodyear Duratrac, Cooper ST Maxx, Falken Wildpeak, Nitto Terra Grapplers, ProComp Extreme AT, Firestone Destination At, Hankook Dunapro ATM, etc etc.
Last edited by ingenuitor; May 24, 2013 at 06:54 PM.
#25
#26
Ice? Slick pavement driving? No clay? BFG AT KO, hands down. They're phenomenal in ice and snow, especially on pavement.
Clay mud? Thick mud? They will leaving you stuck. I haven't tried BFG KMs yet, but the BFG MTs were awesome. Liked them better all around than Swampers.
I'm currently running TreadWright Guard Dogs. Not recommended in thick mud as they pack up too quickly (as do the Goodyear MTR they're modeled after), their mud variant is probably better for that. I do like them in the wet, esp pavement, otherwise. $500 shipped to my house for 4. Unbeatable pricing. They do take some extra weight to balance, however. I threw an extra 6oz of airsoft plastic pellets in each of mine to smooth them out after Pep Boys finished their $18/tire install/balance which was so-so at best, worked like a charm
https://treadwright.com/p-52-285-70r...dog-m-t-d.aspx
I wore out a set of their BFG AT clones on SWMBO's Yukon XL (not a lot of offroad, but more than most 4x4s). I'm happy with them, though if I was in a lot of ice and snow, like I used to be, I'd be running the BFG KOs still.
Clay mud? Thick mud? They will leaving you stuck. I haven't tried BFG KMs yet, but the BFG MTs were awesome. Liked them better all around than Swampers.
I'm currently running TreadWright Guard Dogs. Not recommended in thick mud as they pack up too quickly (as do the Goodyear MTR they're modeled after), their mud variant is probably better for that. I do like them in the wet, esp pavement, otherwise. $500 shipped to my house for 4. Unbeatable pricing. They do take some extra weight to balance, however. I threw an extra 6oz of airsoft plastic pellets in each of mine to smooth them out after Pep Boys finished their $18/tire install/balance which was so-so at best, worked like a charm
https://treadwright.com/p-52-285-70r...dog-m-t-d.aspx
I wore out a set of their BFG AT clones on SWMBO's Yukon XL (not a lot of offroad, but more than most 4x4s). I'm happy with them, though if I was in a lot of ice and snow, like I used to be, I'd be running the BFG KOs still.
Last edited by edeslaur; May 26, 2013 at 08:21 PM.
#27
Ok ppz, I wanted to thank everyone for the great information, it truly helped. So far the best price I can find on these BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO locally installed is $698 with tax, which includes lifetime rotations, balancing, lifetime repairs, if they can be repaired. No replacement warranty unless I pay another $20 a tire and that's only good for a year. The sweet spot would be what? $650? Thanks
Also they have DOT date of March 2013, so they are new and not like some shops, that still sell 6-12 year old tires as new.
Also they have DOT date of March 2013, so they are new and not like some shops, that still sell 6-12 year old tires as new.
Last edited by ingenuitor; May 29, 2013 at 09:21 AM.
#29
#30
So $614 installed is the deal of the day after doing some more shopping around, I even have that in writing, made them send it to me, paper is always better than a word over the phone, hmm I'd prob be hard pressed to find a better deal, even if I wait for months huh? BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO 31/10.5/15 locally installed, which includes lifetime rotations, balancing, lifetime repairs, if they can be repaired. I wonder how much they are really marked up, I bet allot more than we all think. Find the big tire sale guys in your area and they are rolling in money, hmmm I wonder why hehe, some quoted me $215 a tire installed ouch.... Time to bite on this deal?
#31
You can also look for them used. I've run two sets of BFG All-Terrains but neither was new. The first set came on a truck I bought and I swapped them to my next (current) truck. The second set I picked up for $200/5 and ran them for about 10 years.
They are a tough, grippy tire no doubt but I just replaced them with a more mild all-terrain (Nankang FT-7...also used...$40/set
) and really like how smooth-running and quiet they are compared with the BFG A/T.
There are lots of great tires around. Firestone Destination A/T and Geolandar AT/S are highly-rated...Falken Rocky Mountain, Hankook Dynapro, Kumho RoadVenture...you have all kinds of options, many of them less expensive than the BFGs.
Also, do you really need to replace your tires? If they're worn evenly and have some tread depth remaining, why not keep them for a while? You can have a lot of fun on nearly any tire...no-name or big-name. One of the Pegasus models looks like a BFG All Terrain copy--looks good! With the price of tires these days, it's nice when you can keep what you have.
I know the bigger tires look cool, but I really prefer the driving experience on the smaller ones. You get that extra bit of acceleration and power, better braking, and they push less wind at highway speed. I just went from 31x10.50 to 30x9.50 and really how they roll. I would have gone with 235/75 if I could have found some.
Nice X-cab you have there...enjoy!
They are a tough, grippy tire no doubt but I just replaced them with a more mild all-terrain (Nankang FT-7...also used...$40/set
) and really like how smooth-running and quiet they are compared with the BFG A/T. There are lots of great tires around. Firestone Destination A/T and Geolandar AT/S are highly-rated...Falken Rocky Mountain, Hankook Dynapro, Kumho RoadVenture...you have all kinds of options, many of them less expensive than the BFGs.
Also, do you really need to replace your tires? If they're worn evenly and have some tread depth remaining, why not keep them for a while? You can have a lot of fun on nearly any tire...no-name or big-name. One of the Pegasus models looks like a BFG All Terrain copy--looks good! With the price of tires these days, it's nice when you can keep what you have.
I know the bigger tires look cool, but I really prefer the driving experience on the smaller ones. You get that extra bit of acceleration and power, better braking, and they push less wind at highway speed. I just went from 31x10.50 to 30x9.50 and really how they roll. I would have gone with 235/75 if I could have found some.
Nice X-cab you have there...enjoy!
Last edited by YoungFeller; Jun 4, 2013 at 09:48 AM.
#32
You can also look for them used. I've run two sets of BFG All-Terrains but neither was new. The first set came on a truck I bought and I swapped them to my next (current) truck. The second set I picked up for $200/5 and ran them for about 10 years.
They are a tough, grippy tire no doubt but I just replaced them with a more mild all-terrain (Nankang FT-7...also used...$40/set
) and really like how smooth-running and quiet they are compared with the BFG A/T.
There are lots of great tires around. Firestone Destination A/T and Geolandar AT/S are highly-rated...Falken Rocky Mountain, Hankook Dynapro, Kumho RoadVenture...you have all kinds of options, many of them less expensive than the BFGs.
Also, do you really need to replace your tires? If they're worn evenly and have some tread depth remaining, why not keep them for a while? You can have a lot of fun on nearly any tire...no-name or big-name. One of the Pegasus models looks like a BFG All Terrain copy--looks good! With the price of tires these days, it's nice when you can keep what you have.
I know the bigger tires look cool, but I really prefer the driving experience on the smaller ones. You get that extra bit of acceleration and power, better braking, and they push less wind at highway speed. I just went from 31x10.50 to 30x9.50 and really how they roll. I would have gone with 235/75 if I could have found some.
Nice X-cab you have there...enjoy!
They are a tough, grippy tire no doubt but I just replaced them with a more mild all-terrain (Nankang FT-7...also used...$40/set
) and really like how smooth-running and quiet they are compared with the BFG A/T. There are lots of great tires around. Firestone Destination A/T and Geolandar AT/S are highly-rated...Falken Rocky Mountain, Hankook Dynapro, Kumho RoadVenture...you have all kinds of options, many of them less expensive than the BFGs.
Also, do you really need to replace your tires? If they're worn evenly and have some tread depth remaining, why not keep them for a while? You can have a lot of fun on nearly any tire...no-name or big-name. One of the Pegasus models looks like a BFG All Terrain copy--looks good! With the price of tires these days, it's nice when you can keep what you have.
I know the bigger tires look cool, but I really prefer the driving experience on the smaller ones. You get that extra bit of acceleration and power, better braking, and they push less wind at highway speed. I just went from 31x10.50 to 30x9.50 and really how they roll. I would have gone with 235/75 if I could have found some.
Nice X-cab you have there...enjoy!
I already purchased a set, but I can return those if needed, they have a 30 day ride comfort guarantee lol so idk, prolly going to keep the BFG's, time is money as well. Nice options tho, seem really good for the money, thanks for sharing.
#34
Yeah they seem great so far, need more time, I would have kept the old treads, but they have to be the worst tires ive seen. they pull'd to the left hard, plus they had small divots on the side walls & to top it off it would make the truck shake going down the road, yet they were balanced, Pegisus must be like maybe $15 each lol so they got shutoku can'd fast. Gotta at least have safe rubbers when you drive, can't go down the highway without good protection.
Last edited by ingenuitor; Jun 6, 2013 at 05:38 AM.
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