looking for some new tires. I drive in the mountains alot in the winter and would like a tire that is awsome in slush, ice, and snow. but i would also like to use them all year round because im not home for 4 months in the summer and my car doesnt move. i have been looking at the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo or Latitude X-Ice. let me know what you think. Thanks

 

I had REVO's and they were good tires. My favorite snow tires right now are BFG KO AT's. They're solid on snow (I ski quite a bit and head up the canyons. Sometimes in almost blizzard-like conditions). Offroad, they're awesome, too. The only downside is their price (But they're similar to REVO's, especially with the rebate going on right now). They have the severe service winter rating, as denoted by the snow flake/mtn symbol on the sidewall.



General Grabber AT's have the same rating and are cheaper. But the BFG's have tougher sidewalls. Not sure how the Grabbers wear, but the BFG's are excellent.

I'd skip on the X-Ice (snow tires), because even though they're great on snow, but on dry pavement, the performance is subpar. Offroad, it's like riding on passenger tires.

I've tried Nitto Terragrapplers, but they seemed very unstable on snow. Others have had good luck, but for me, that wasn't the case.

Sorry I'm all over the place, but just writing things down as they come to me.

EDIT: One other note. Instead of getting 265/75/16 BFG's, I went with 235/85/16's. They're pretty much the same diameter, but just narrower. The big plus is that they're cheaper. $600 installed.

 

Yea i dont know if i can drop 1000 bucks on a set of bfgs, but are your sure that other size is about the same?. Also i saw the michelin ltx a/t 2. their rated pretty high in snow as well as ice and wet roads

 

The 235/85/16's are actually a hair TALLER than 265/75's, but not a big deal. They are noticeablly narrower, though. I'll have to see if I have any pics.

The REVO's or any other AT's will be louder and will cause MPG's to go down compared to passenger all season tires. But the Revo's were actually pretty quiet on the street. MPG dropped by 1-2 mpg. I averaged about 21 on the freeway and it dropped to 19-20. I am getting about the same with the BFG's. The BFG's are a tiny bit louder than Revo's. They also don't do as well in the rain. But they're much better off road. If you're not planning on offroading, I'd go with Revo's, Yoko ATS, or Mich AT2's.

 

BFG's are not so great for a heavier car, they wear really fast because of how soft they are, the dueler AT is a much better tire and they last longer, and it looks like you drive a 3rd gen 4runner so the softer tire wouldnt be the best thing for you. i work at americas tire, thats how i know these things.

 

Hmm. My BFG's are wearing just as well as Revo's. I fully expect to get 50-70k miles out of these. My Tacoma is a double cab and weighs the same as a 4Runner. Plenty of others have got great mileage out of these tires. Including the much heavier 4th Gen 4Runners and even heavier Landcruisers. I completely disagree with your statement. What you're seeing probably has more to do with poorly adjusted toe (alignment).

 

yeah, i just see a lot of BFG's come in with like 15-25k on the tires and they have very little tread left... but thats usually on things like f350's bigger trucks like that.. yea some of them are worn bad like their alignment is really messed up but i would still but the dueler AT, much cheaper and from what i have seen a better tire. its all opinion though, i was just going off of my experiences at work.

 

No offense, but how are you comparing 1 ton trucks with 4Runners? They're not even close to being in the same class. Also realize that those diesels are probably pulling some HEAVY loads, which will increase tire wear. The OP never mentioned towing or hauling heavy loads, which these F350's were probably used for, which is why I'm confused on the "better tire" comment, because that has nothing to do with the OP's uses. He was asking about snow tires. I don't know how much snow you get in Cali but I deal with it all winter long.

Lastly, even IF a tire only lasts 20k miles, but performs well, I'd much rather take that then a tire that lasts 100k miles but perform like a block of ice.

 

Cackalak, so were the 235/85/16's the Revos or the BFG ATs? I know they only come in LR E, so how was the ride, and what PSI do you run in these to stand the LR E? I've been thinking about 235's in one or the other of these two tires.

I have heard others say the ride is OK with LR E, and I'm assuming that the height of the sidewall makes them just a bit more flexy. When you say your MPG dropped 1-2, is that from the stock tire, and did you adjust for the diameter discrepancy effect on your odometer?

Thanks!

 

I've got them currently. They're BFG KO's in LR E. I thought the ride might be a little harsh, due to the 10ply sidewall, but honestly, it's not that harsh at all. I honestly couldn't tell that much difference from the stock p-rated tires. I think the higher sidewalls might attribute to this.

I am at 45PSI (max is 80). The MPG is calibrated for the increased size. Actually, with the increased size, the GPS reading is spot on with the speedo. Stock, it was 1-2MPH off. I think you'll like the 235's. Much cheaper for the 265's. Best bang-for-buck, IMO.

 

I run Bridestone Winter duelers as my snowy season tire. I very much enjoy the traction created by these tires. I drive to the mountain (70 mile one way) 2-3 times a week. Allot of times during mild conditions i never need the added traction of 4x4 because of these tires though when fully engaged they are unstoppable. I know you were maybe trying to stay a little more all season but when ever i can i rep these tires cause i have felt nothing like them. This is on a 2nd Gen 4runner. I run TSL's in the summer so my mileage of my tires is unknown. They wear better than anything else i run (but again thats a TSL type tire ). They also treat me right in the rain. I get minimal hydroplane (Portland OR) and great dry grip. I got mine on sale, though i believe they were 6-800 range msrp.

Sorry as i have little experience for your comparison as well as sizing.