Any input on these mud terrain tires? Trailcutter Performer mt's...Look nice!
#1
Any input on these mud terrain tires? Trailcutter Performer mt's...Look nice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/31-10...09844302QQrdZ1
I believe they're called "Trailcutter performer mt's" Look like a nice aggressive tread with great siping.
I believe they're called "Trailcutter performer mt's" Look like a nice aggressive tread with great siping.
Last edited by BAZ; Jul 31, 2006 at 07:18 PM.
#2
Not positive but I thought I saw these on a trail test ina 4x4 mag and they liked them.
They look okay but it would be hard for me to trust a no name brand at 75mph or in the middle of no where wheeling. Just my thoughts though. I would do more research before buying them.
They look okay but it would be hard for me to trust a no name brand at 75mph or in the middle of no where wheeling. Just my thoughts though. I would do more research before buying them.
#5
I like the looks of the tread, they should do well in the mud and the extra large siping is interesting. Better than no siping at all.
I can't vouch for the integrity of those tires, but when I worked at a goodyear tire plant, one week they'd be making high end GY tires and the next week they'd change the mold and make the same tire that said Amaaco or High Mileage or some other "no name". So, I'd be willing to say with confidence that you can get inexpensive tires that are just as good as the high end tires.
I can't vouch for the integrity of those tires, but when I worked at a goodyear tire plant, one week they'd be making high end GY tires and the next week they'd change the mold and make the same tire that said Amaaco or High Mileage or some other "no name". So, I'd be willing to say with confidence that you can get inexpensive tires that are just as good as the high end tires.
#6
Also, if you think you always get what you pay for (wink wink), do a search on the recent Bridgestone problem. I was at the tire shop the other day and saw a Bridgestone with chunks missing from the sidewall... freaky.
#7
Originally Posted by Dingman
Also, if you think you always get what you pay for (wink wink), do a search on the recent Bridgestone problem. I was at the tire shop the other day and saw a Bridgestone with chunks missing from the sidewall... freaky.
Please provide me with a link to that "Bridgestone problem" that everyone is having. As a Bridgestone employee, I get so damn tired of hearing about all of these problems that "everyone" has with Bridgestone/Firestone tires.
If you have real factual evidence, then I implore you to post it up.
*edit*
Probably went a little overboard. Had a bad day at work.
Last edited by terryjmatthew; Aug 2, 2006 at 11:57 AM.
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Originally Posted by terryjmatthew
Sorry to thread-jack, but I couldn't let this go w/o comment.
Please provide me with a link to that "Bridgestone problem" that everyone is having. As a Bridgestone employee, I get so damn tired of hearing about all of these problems that "everyone" has with Bridgestone/Firestone tires.
If you have real factual evidence, then I implore you to post it up. Otherwise ˟˟˟˟!
Please provide me with a link to that "Bridgestone problem" that everyone is having. As a Bridgestone employee, I get so damn tired of hearing about all of these problems that "everyone" has with Bridgestone/Firestone tires.
If you have real factual evidence, then I implore you to post it up. Otherwise ˟˟˟˟!
Here's what I know. A couple weeks ago, I was at Earls Tire, located here in Des Moines. I was waiting on a tire and was looking at a guys truck up on the hoist. I saw the tire techs looking at the inside (well, the outside of the tire but the inside sidewall, you know under the vehicle, not the side facing out) and it was missing a chunk of rubber maybe 1\32 or maybe 1\8" and about 1 sq inch in area. So, I talk to the owner of the truck and this is the second tire that did that and they were only a few months old.
So, when I got home, I googled it and saw some complaints at a BBB website and there it mentioned the recall.
Tonight, when I did a search, it appears the only recall was from 2001 when the tread seperation thing was going on.
Tonight, this is the only link that's popping up for me, and tho it demonstrates some problems, I sure couldn't say it's related to the tire issue I saw on that guys truck.
Hope that helps and thanks for being so nice about it. Don't worry, I'll never tell you to ˟˟˟˟, no matter what I think of your posting.
#11
terryjmatthew
One of about 1000 billion zillion Links.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/blfirestone.htm
Google
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=
Ill never buy Bridgestone
One of about 1000 billion zillion Links.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/blfirestone.htm
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=
Ill never buy Bridgestone
#12
Originally Posted by 4Hummer
Ill never buy Bridgestone
Originally Posted by Dingman
Also, if you think you always get what you pay for (wink wink), do a search on the recent Bridgestone problem. I was at the tire shop the other day and saw a Bridgestone with chunks missing from the sidewall... freaky.
As for Bridgestones, I and my family have owned several sets, all excellent tires. They are easily competitive with any other tire with which they compete, a.k.a. Goodyear and B.F. Goodrich (NOT some no-name brand you buy off of Ebay). Just because there is one guy who says he saw some tire with pieces missing from the sidewall that happened to be Bridgestone doesn't mean anything! What if he drove into a curb?! I had all kinds of chunks missing from my 33x10.50 BFG A/T's, but that doesn't mean they were bad tires, I drove the crap out of them! I have seen problems in EVERY brand of tire! I've seen a brand-new Superswamper blow apart and rip a guy's bed-side in half, I've seen a BFG All Terrain blow driving on the freeway, I've seen Procomp M/T's that had horrible tread chunk problems, I've seen... you get the idea. There is no way to know how that guy treated his tires in the first place, if he had the properly inflated, where he was driving, if they were the correct rated tires for what he was towing, blah blah blah.
And if I do remember correctly (which I do) the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo is one of the most well-respected tires on this board... not by coincidence by the way, they are an excellent tire.
#13
WOW! We recalled some tires????
Thanks for the link 4Hummer.
Like Brian stated above, I have seen quite a few bad tires in my day. There are too many variables to say what caused alot of them to go bad.
Under-inflation, overloading, etc can cause tires to seperate/chunk whatever you would like to call it.
As to the whole recall thing- Does anyone else find it odd that the vast majority of tire failures on the Ford Exploders were the Left Rear tire??
I guess the "bad ones" came out of the mold and we told Ford to put them on the left rear......Right? It couldn't have been due to overloading the tires while they were underinflated on an infamously top-heavy vehicle.
I am not going to comment on this subject any more, but please (for my sake) know what you are talking about before commenting on a subject.
Oh yeah, Michelins suck! One time I saw a truck rolled over w/ Michelin tires on it.
They must have been defective. Get the lynch mob!!
Thanks for the link 4Hummer.
Like Brian stated above, I have seen quite a few bad tires in my day. There are too many variables to say what caused alot of them to go bad.
Under-inflation, overloading, etc can cause tires to seperate/chunk whatever you would like to call it.
As to the whole recall thing- Does anyone else find it odd that the vast majority of tire failures on the Ford Exploders were the Left Rear tire??
I guess the "bad ones" came out of the mold and we told Ford to put them on the left rear......Right? It couldn't have been due to overloading the tires while they were underinflated on an infamously top-heavy vehicle.
I am not going to comment on this subject any more, but please (for my sake) know what you are talking about before commenting on a subject.
Oh yeah, Michelins suck! One time I saw a truck rolled over w/ Michelin tires on it.
They must have been defective. Get the lynch mob!!
#14
Originally Posted by terryjmatthew
know what you are talking about before commenting on a subject.
Oh yeah, Michelins suck! One time I saw a truck rolled over w/ Michelin tires on it.
They must have been defective. Get the lynch mob!!
Oh yeah, Michelins suck! One time I saw a truck rolled over w/ Michelin tires on it.
They must have been defective. Get the lynch mob!!
A friend of mine is a big wig over at Bridgestone, and he knows his stuff. Frequently gets to visit the big meetings, overlook tests every now and then, and meet with the heads of auto manufacturers when negotiating deals.
Point is, he has an inside line and knows how the brands stack up against each other. He says Michelin hands down makes probably best out there, along with Bridgestone (Imagine that lol). Towards the bottom of the list is Goodyear and Dunlop.
I dunno about believing him about the Bridgestone/Firestone quality and all with the Ford Explorer recalls, but hearing an official from a major company giving such a strong opinion about a competitor gives me no doubts about Michelin quality.
#15
as brian has so eloquently put it; i believe everyone seems to be influenced by what they have personally seen, or encountered. when you take on something as immense as tires, or break it down even farther, rubber, you cant just put a label on 1 percent, if that, of a certain sample (one brands all terrain, or whatever).
when you take a step back, think about how many tires there are on the road. how many brands, how many models, how many sizes, how many different vehicles, how many different air pressures, how many bad drivers, how many good drivers, how many potholes, how many curbs with black marks. its insane to think you can label an entire company because you know someone that had that tire fail for them.
that being said, a recall is designed with one main idea behind it; saving your companys ass. do you honestly believe the presidents and the upper tier of these tire companies TRULY want to fix all your tires because it will save john smith's 2 year old son who isnt buckled in the backseat from breaking his neck when his left rear tire from his explorer blows out? maybe, but i think they really just want to keep their company running and money in their pocket.
a recall could have been done for many a reason; according to the recall pointed out by 4hummer, it seems maybe the heat of the south could have been the reason why these tires exploded. but is that really what happened? how are the driving records of people in these states? how many blowouts do they record annually? do these people really know how to properly inflate their tires? what types of cars are most people driving? wouldnt someone in the south be more prone to buy a convertible? isnt this recall citing an all terrain, and didnt most of these accidents happen in suv's (explorers)?
i just dont like to see a company that to me, has proven itself time and time again get bashed.
and as far as those ebay tires.....the price to me, isnt worth the uncertaintity. theyre really not that cheap.
when you take a step back, think about how many tires there are on the road. how many brands, how many models, how many sizes, how many different vehicles, how many different air pressures, how many bad drivers, how many good drivers, how many potholes, how many curbs with black marks. its insane to think you can label an entire company because you know someone that had that tire fail for them.
that being said, a recall is designed with one main idea behind it; saving your companys ass. do you honestly believe the presidents and the upper tier of these tire companies TRULY want to fix all your tires because it will save john smith's 2 year old son who isnt buckled in the backseat from breaking his neck when his left rear tire from his explorer blows out? maybe, but i think they really just want to keep their company running and money in their pocket.
a recall could have been done for many a reason; according to the recall pointed out by 4hummer, it seems maybe the heat of the south could have been the reason why these tires exploded. but is that really what happened? how are the driving records of people in these states? how many blowouts do they record annually? do these people really know how to properly inflate their tires? what types of cars are most people driving? wouldnt someone in the south be more prone to buy a convertible? isnt this recall citing an all terrain, and didnt most of these accidents happen in suv's (explorers)?
i just dont like to see a company that to me, has proven itself time and time again get bashed.
and as far as those ebay tires.....the price to me, isnt worth the uncertaintity. theyre really not that cheap.
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