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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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ok lets talk SAS on tacoma

My buddys about to tackle his SAS.Hes planning on the trailgear set up.Whats different with this then a regular IFS- SAS? i know the rack is on teh back of all the ifs stuff. What parts will we need in addition to the trailgear SAS kit?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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What year is the Taco?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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check out www.ttora.com

Whole crap tons of folks have swapped every year taco ever made.

Good luck
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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it shouldnt matter what year it is to sas a taco, right? you are still cutting alot of stuff off the frame.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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I thought only allpro had a SAS kit for the taco.. a IFS eliminator kit for a 86-95 will not work on a Taco...
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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Trail Gear to my knowlege does not have a kit for SASing a Tacoma of any year, only 79-85 pickups and 4Runners. Pickups were not called "Tacomas" until 95.5.

Now if that is what you are doing, let me know and I'll hook ya up.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
Trail Gear to my knowlege does not have a kit for SASing a Tacoma of any year, only 79-85 pickups and 4Runners. Pickups were not called "Tacomas" until 95.5.

Now if that is what you are doing, let me know and I'll hook ya up.

I think you might know the trail gear inventory

Its amazing how many people dont know that older toyota pickups are called "pickups".. I have seen many 198x or 199x( pre 95.5) tacoms for sale..

Speaking of trail gear... how long does it usually take to get springs from you? I will be ordering some early next year...
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AH64ID
I think you might know the trail gear inventory

Its amazing how many people dont know that older toyota pickups are called "pickups".. I have seen many 198x or 199x( pre 95.5) tacoms for sale..

Speaking of trail gear... how long does it usually take to get springs from you? I will be ordering some early next year...
Yep, the "Tacoma" label gets thrown around a lot...but I guess that is a good thing for Toyota that the name is so well known now.

Things go out the same day as the order via UPS ground...3 days to Idaho I imagine.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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All-Pro and Off-Road Solutions are the only two making "complete" swap kits out there. Both are Coil-overs.

Front Range Off-Road Fabrication and Bent-up both make hanger kits and sell other components to help put together a Tacoma SAS.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rockota
All-Pro and Off-Road Solutions are the only two making "complete" swap kits out there. Both are Coil-overs.

Front Range Off-Road Fabrication and Bent-up both make hanger kits and sell other components to help put together a Tacoma SAS.
I agree with web wheeler.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Is it even possible to SAS a Tacoma?
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WATRD
Is it even possible to SAS a Tacoma?
No... only 96 4Runners.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WATRD
Is it even possible to SAS a Tacoma?
Nope, its a myth... kinda like ARB bumpers on a SAS truck
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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We found a few kits. I just need to see if its possible to flip over a front axel from an 85 runner and relocate the breather to the top of the diff housing. If everything turns the same way i dont see any problems doing the swap at all.

My buddy has been trying to find a used D60 but right now doesnt have the money for it. Were going to see if we can make this all happen and if so later on hes grabbing a D60. Anyone know for sure if that woks? Is there a custom housing we could use if it wont?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 04:19 AM
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I think if it were as easy as flipping the axle it would be common, and its not...

You have a couple of options, inchworm, marlin and probally others have adapters to put a the xcase from a 85-95 in, giving the option of lower gears, as a well as using a 79-85 axle.

You could have a custom housing made, thou if money is the issue this is the way to go...

Do you really need 60's on a tacoma? I know some run them, but thats a full size axle, now your needing a 3/4 or 1 ton rear end to match the width... just a whole lot more involved, and a whole different level of wheeling....

Best bet is to get a D44 from a waggoneer, cant remember what years but could be searched, and put that under there. You can get internals for the 44 that make it plenty strong.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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IF you flip the houseing, you will be putting a lot of pressure on the "Coast" side of the gears when climbing, as opposed to the "drive"s side of the gears. They were not meant to be driven this way, so you won't have the full strength of your Ring and Pinion gears as you should have; when the axle is in its proper location, or right side up.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveO
IF you flip the houseing, you will be putting a lot of pressure on the "Coast" side of the gears when climbing, as opposed to the "drive"s side of the gears. They were not meant to be driven this way, so you won't have the full strength of your Ring and Pinion gears as you should have; when the axle is in its proper location, or right side up.
Nope... If he flips the axle, the tires will rotate in the opposite direction that he wants... Rears driving forward, front driving rear. You can't flip the 3rd - doesn't work.

Plus, ackerman angle, camber, steering, etc will all be messed up.

Go Dana 44 and be done.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Yes you can flip the axle..... you'll just have a push-pull rig...
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceTS
Yes you can flip the axle..... you'll just have a push-pull rig...
Hehe--- your own tug of war contest
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Hmmmms Tacomas have pumpkin on the opposite side of a pickup in the front?
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