I'm glad I didn't go with the FJ
Aug 17, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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So does this.
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ive-crack.html
Toyota is already aware of the issue, as they monitor the big FJ site and they also monitor YotaTech on a daily basis.
If it happens to mine, it will repaired under warranty.
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ive-crack.html
Toyota is already aware of the issue, as they monitor the big FJ site and they also monitor YotaTech on a daily basis.
If it happens to mine, it will repaired under warranty.
Aug 18, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Cracks should absolutely not happen period! Something is telling me that this is one of the few signs Toyota quality is getting worse. How do you repair the crack? Sounds like a big NVH problem right there. After they fix it, it will not be right. Technically they should crush the vehicle. GM in the 90's s10 trucks forgot to put in some floorpan reinforcements that prevent the cab from buckling. The trucks were crushed and the customer was given a new truck. It was a federal safety issue and it had to be crush by law but nothing like the FJ I ever seen.
James
James
Aug 18, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Good God.
Trust me, if you put in a $1600 claim every year, your insurance company is going to jack up your rates, and probably drop you like a rock after the third or fourth claim. I've heard some states have laws that insurance companies must fix glass without holding it against the policyholder, maybe you are one of the lucky ones, but I live in CO, and trust me, after the third $1600 claim here you are going to be either dropped or your rates will skyrocket. This issue alone disqualifies the FJ for me. The longest I've gone without replacing a windshield is two years, and that was after driving it for over a year with a huge crack. In fact, I drive them until they are shotpeened to a thousand points of light regardless of cracks. Colorado is the worst place on earth for glass.
Hopefully in a few years there will be a less expensive glass alternative, and the first year issues will be history.
Trust me, if you put in a $1600 claim every year, your insurance company is going to jack up your rates, and probably drop you like a rock after the third or fourth claim. I've heard some states have laws that insurance companies must fix glass without holding it against the policyholder, maybe you are one of the lucky ones, but I live in CO, and trust me, after the third $1600 claim here you are going to be either dropped or your rates will skyrocket. This issue alone disqualifies the FJ for me. The longest I've gone without replacing a windshield is two years, and that was after driving it for over a year with a huge crack. In fact, I drive them until they are shotpeened to a thousand points of light regardless of cracks. Colorado is the worst place on earth for glass.
Hopefully in a few years there will be a less expensive glass alternative, and the first year issues will be history.
Aug 18, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks Hank, very good input.
Cracks are a normal occurance in some places, and I can not see an insurance company dropping someone or raising the rates on account of normal coverage.
Cracks are a normal occurance in some places, and I can not see an insurance company dropping someone or raising the rates on account of normal coverage.
Aug 18, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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i had to talk my mom out of one a couple of monthes ago, the rear door windows don't roll down, niether does the hatch window... but, if they come out with the soft-top model, and fix their weak steel, one might be an option. are there any other problems, how do the seats hold up to abuse?
Aug 18, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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but we live in texas, and mom likes gay (apparently)...she was also looking at a lincoln exploder (aviator) and a caddy SRX... looking at the caddy and lincoln i'd predict blue hair within weeks...
i'm trying to talk her into a '67 nova wagon...
oops, sorry about the hi-jack.
How would you rate rear visibility?
i'm trying to talk her into a '67 nova wagon...
oops, sorry about the hi-jack.
How would you rate rear visibility?
Aug 18, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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100%
I know, some ask how can you see out a tiny window, and even with this monster in the back I can see just fine out my rear window.
I know, some ask how can you see out a tiny window, and even with this monster in the back I can see just fine out my rear window.
Aug 19, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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There is a fix out now for the cracks under the hood.
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ay-cracks.html
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ay-cracks.html
Aug 19, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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What company?
just my two cents, but Colorado actually offers windshield coverage at a 0 deductible, and it doesnt go against your rates. it is normal to go through one a year without rates being affected. ive been selling insurance for 2.5 years, and i havent seen one policy go up from windshield claims. not trying to be a jerk, but we insurance guys have a bad name, and i dont think we deserve it.
If they've been lying to me, it might be time to switch. Who offers a 0 deductible glass policy that doesn't go against you? I spend at least $500 a year on windshields, some bad years I've spent more. Of course, if the coverage is $250 a vehicle it doesn't make much sense....
Aug 19, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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There is a fix out now for the cracks under the hood.
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ay-cracks.html
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ay-cracks.html
moabite, call around or apply online:
http://www.google.com/search?q=color...ient=firefox-a
Aug 20, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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hmmm, as for the windshield issue i find that mine is holding up very well. I have a small chip in my window currently however ive many rock impacts from paaing trucks and such. Plus, in florida all windshield repairs are absolutely free for eveyone becuase of some law yall were talking about earlier. What is this ive been reading about glued on sheet metal on the hood? Is this true? I cant seem to belive it, theres no way toyota would glue something so important to save a few bucks. Im also having a hard time beliveing the engine bay cracks. For those people who jump thir rigs im shure it would happen (in any vehicle), but for us weekend trail guys this shouldnt happen. Im going to go inspect mine right now
Aug 20, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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i have over 19,000 miles on my FJ and have no cracks, bulges or rips...
I also have a $0.00 deductible for the vehicle and so far i've had to have two rock chips patched in the windshield. So far i've been damn lucky but if it cracks, State Farm will buy me a new one...
I also have a $0.00 deductible for the vehicle and so far i've had to have two rock chips patched in the windshield. So far i've been damn lucky but if it cracks, State Farm will buy me a new one...
Aug 20, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Sounds to me like it all comes down to same thing everything does.. Personal Preference and Money. One guy is stoked on his FJ and the next guy would hate it.. Its an endless dispute of choice.
Personal Note of .02$: I would never want a vehicle I was afraid might crack in any way shape or form unless TRULY BEATEN to such a state. Windshields happen.
Personal Note of .02$: I would never want a vehicle I was afraid might crack in any way shape or form unless TRULY BEATEN to such a state. Windshields happen.
Aug 20, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Sounds to me like it all comes down to same thing everything does.. Personal Preference and Money. One guy is stoked on his FJ and the next guy would hate it.. Its an endless dispute of choice.
Personal Note of .02$: I would never want a vehicle I was afraid might crack in any way shape or form unless TRULY BEATEN to such a state. Windshields happen.
Personal Note of .02$: I would never want a vehicle I was afraid might crack in any way shape or form unless TRULY BEATEN to such a state. Windshields happen.
its the "rum raisin ice cream" debate...
