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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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T100 K&N air filter

I recently sold my '98 T-100 and switched over to an '05 F-150 (needed the extra power to tow a boat, otherwise I'd have kept my T 'til she fell apart). Anyway, before I gave it up, I removed the K&N air filter I had been using it and no longer have a need for it. So...

Is anyone interested in buying a 33-2064 K&N filter for your T-100? It's still in fantastic shape (probably needs a bit of cleaning and I'd do it for you but I ran out of the fluid last time I cleaned it up). The filters typically sell for $50-60 online (cheapest I saw was $49), but I'm willing to sell it to anyone interested for $25...and I'll cover the shipping costs to you.

Let me know!
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I wouldn't run a K&N on a bet. If it was a race engine that was being re-built after every race, ok. The fine particulate that passes through a K&N is sickening. The advantage to running a K&N filter is ZERO.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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I'm so glad I asked for your opinion! Gosh, now I feel so much more educated!

The K&N is still for sale, for anyone who, like me, might be interested in using one.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by martinfan30
I wouldn't run a K&N on a bet. If it was a race engine that was being re-built after every race, ok. The fine particulate that passes through a K&N is sickening. The advantage to running a K&N filter is ZERO.
ya know, really interesting you brought that up, because i'm on the opposite end of that. recently we had a '05 dodge diesel towed into my shop without the cylinder head on it. the owner had taken it to a local dealership, complaining of a odd rattle out of the engine. they replaced three injectors, then decided to run a compression test. they found that all 6 cylinders were about 10-15 lbs low, so they pulled the cylinder head to determine the loss of compression. They then condemed the motor, saying the exact same thing as you. the K&n had let too much dust in, scoring the cylinder walls and ruining the motor.

fast forward to my shop. the owner of the truck called k&n, explaining his situation with the dealership. k&n then PAID to have the truck towed to our shop, then PAID a failure analysis engineering firm to fly an engineer into denver from alberta, PAID my shop to pull the engine and disassemble it, then PAID for a jasper replacement motor while they went after chrysler. the failure analysis firm concluded that k&n was not at fault at all. the k&n representative said that he does about 150 of these trips a year, to determine if an engine failure was k&n's fault, and in the 10 years that he has been the representative for k&n's complaint department, he's only seen 1 vehicle that had a failure caused by k&n.

so IMHO, i'll run a k&n in ANY vehicle i ever own, just based on how well k&n backs up their customers. in my time of turning wrenches professionally, i've never seen a company back up their customers that well.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 07:02 AM
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I don't know why a K&N would let grit and such into the intake. If anything gets past the oiled filter material it's bound to be very, very fine stuff. I'm running them in both of my vehicles now.

A distinct advantage of the K&N drop in filter on my T100 is the fact that the mice can't chew it up for nesting material and put holes through the filter, due to the K&N wire mesh. It was definitely a consideration for me, after finding a paper filter with a hole almost through it.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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ya know, really interesting you brought that up, because i'm on the opposite end of that. recently we had a '05 dodge diesel towed into my shop without the cylinder head on it. the owner had taken it to a local dealership, complaining of a odd rattle out of the engine. they replaced three injectors, then decided to run a compression test. they found that all 6 cylinders were about 10-15 lbs low, so they pulled the cylinder head to determine the loss of compression. They then condemed the motor, saying the exact same thing as you. the K&n had let too much dust in, scoring the cylinder walls and ruining the motor.

fast forward to my shop. the owner of the truck called k&n, explaining his situation with the dealership. k&n then PAID to have the truck towed to our shop, then PAID a failure analysis engineering firm to fly an engineer into denver from alberta, PAID my shop to pull the engine and disassemble it, then PAID for a jasper replacement motor while they went after chrysler. the failure analysis firm concluded that k&n was not at fault at all. the k&n representative said that he does about 150 of these trips a year, to determine if an engine failure was k&n's fault, and in the 10 years that he has been the representative for k&n's complaint department, he's only seen 1 vehicle that had a failure caused by k&n.

so IMHO, i'll run a k&n in ANY vehicle i ever own, just based on how well k&n backs up their customers. in my time of turning wrenches professionally, i've never seen a company back up their customers that well.
1 failure out of 150 is one failure too much for something that is supposed to be protecting your engine. Take a look into the intake tube, upstream of the filter and tell me there is not a coating of dust all inside that tube.

I would have no problem running K&N in an engine that is used for racing and is regularly torn completely apart and inspected/re-built. Not in a daily driver that may see a 1-2 H.P. gain.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by martinfan30
1 failure out of 150 is one failure too much for something that is supposed to be protecting your engine. Take a look into the intake tube, upstream of the filter and tell me there is not a coating of dust all inside that tube.

I would have no problem running K&N in an engine that is used for racing and is regularly torn completely apart and inspected/re-built. Not in a daily driver that may see a 1-2 H.P. gain.
You miss-read my post. He's been the failure representative for the last ten years, and averages checking out about 150 a year. that's over 1500 +/- that he's personally checked out in the last ten years, and he said he's not the only one that does these service calls.

As far as the dust in the intake, i'm a little more of a stickler. I recharge my air filter every other oil change. i also inspect the MAF, and intake tube just to make sure i dont run into this exact problem. my intake tube is as clean as when i put it on. on top of that, i've had k&n intakes on every vehicle i've owned, plus on my brother's tacoma and my girlfriends durango.

i know its just some people's opinion, but i dont see trashing a company that way. my shop deals with k&N on a regular basis, and like i said in the previous post, i've never seen a company put so much effort into making sure their customers are happy. that's just my two cents...
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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I run a KnN and have never seen ANYTHING on the engine side if the intake tube. No dust nothing. K&N's are fine.I have had the same one for 18 years.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Use the K&N filter oil very sparingly as the instructions say, and there shouldn't be much oil (or dust) at all inside the intake tube.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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let an oiled filter sit overnight flat on paper towels, there will be NO oil in the intake.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Teuf
let an oiled filter sit overnight flat on paper towels, there will be NO oil in the intake.
This is exactly what i do.

x2 on the oil. The problems I see are from people oiling the hell out of the filter. That is where the MAF problems and other issues come from. If over done, the oil WILL soak through and get sucked into the intake track, coating anything and everything.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Silencer06
I'm so glad I asked for your opinion! Gosh, now I feel so much more educated!.
hahahhahahahaa man that was funny. funnyyy stuff. you should post this in the classifieds section of yotatech
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Sold the filter guys...to another interested user.

Like one of you said, everyone has their opinions about EVERY product in the world. There's no reason whatsoever to bad-mouth any company based on hearsay. You have every right to bash a company's product if YOU have PERSONALLY had problems with their products, but to say you'd "never use their product" based on assumptions or rumors or negative things you read/heard from other so-called experts just isn't fair to the general public who IS interested in those same products. And for the record, nothing martinfan30 has written so far leads me to believe he has personally had a problem with a K&N filter, therefore, his opinion is worthless to me and hopefully ignored by others.

By the way, I asked someone in my neighborhood where my wife and I can find a really good Mexican restaurant to eat, and he said he hates Mexicans so he won't eat their food anywhere. Hmmm, I guess that must mean Mexican food around here is bad, so maybe I shouldn't try any of the restaurants.
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