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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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my truck smokes too in the mornings. try running some seafoam in it. see if that works.

but if it doesnt sound weird, i think your okay.

with the non starting... i have no idea. toyota should have found out something with that. hmmm.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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if it smokes a bit in the mornings, thats normal! thats the truck warmin up, burnin off the MOISTURE in the muffler and everything. now if youre losing fluid, constantly have a THICK white cloud, then yeah its HG time.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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theres WAY more to a blown headgasket than just white smoke. When i had mine go, it never failed to start, but it ran like crap. It would overheat as quick as it could get to operating temperature. I had a valve go in my poser steering vacuum lines and that caused white smoke, too. Does your exhaust smell like coolant? Are you losing coolant quickly? Also, if they did 'tear the engine apart' wouldn't they have had the head off and then had to change the headgasket?
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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doing a headgasket job right now on a 22r and i gotta rebuild a 22r in our 87. Both had the gasket fail on cylinder 1.. weird.

Consistent white smoke = headgasket failure.... A real eassssy way to check is to take out the spark plugs (all 4), ground the ignition to the block (or leave it hanging away from anything so it wont arc..

turn the engine over about 4 times. When water comes spraying out you'll know the HG is toast =) ... btw this the same procedure to do a compression test.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Im Going To Go Pick It Up Right Now
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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To test compression, you need a compression tester. They are a gauge that has a hose that threads into the plug hole. Pull all the plugs, ground the coil, then crank the engine over until the needle moves 4 times (you may need an assistant). Repeat this for all of the cylinders.

Low compression could mean a variety of things:

Here are a few:
Worn Rings (doubtful)
Worn Valve Seats (doubtful)
Head Gasket (Likely)
Valve Lash (My Problem)

You are likely to find you have lower compression on one or maybe two cylinders than the rest, if it is the headgasket.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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At this point i would toss your motor and throw in a chevy350 instead of doing a headgasket
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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hell yes
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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easy way to tell if you got a dead cylinder(low or no compression) is unplug the coil from the distributor and crank the motor. If you hear the rpm raise and lower as you crank it then you got a dead cylinder(s)
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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As far as those FSM's go, is there a difference between the 1993 and the 1992?
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Last edited by jason191918; Dec 11, 2007 at 10:33 PM.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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so what happened with the dealer?
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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you can always call Toyota customer relations, they do seems to take complaints seriously. threatening a lawsuit always works, too. it's very legal pretending you know alot of legal stuff.

seriously, how long was it btween you drop off your truck and they told you they tore up motor? IIRC, it takes a good shop 2 days, a dealer 2 weeks to do that.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Brought It In On A Tuesday Night
They "worked" On It On Wednesday
They Called Me Thursday Told Me To Pick It Up On Friday
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