another 4th gen. lift in progress soon
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yeah, the impact wrench was for the spring compressor ... i will probably just do the air ratchet like you suggest. some people have done it without air tools at all, so, even a "wimpy" 3/8" air ratchet should be fine i'd think.
i suppose i'll just have to wait until i start ... then i'll know better what tools i'm lacking. i just ordered the craftsman 1/2" torque wrench that keisur recommended above, but as for the air tool ... i think i will wait and just try to find something less expensive than the impact wrench.
i suppose i'll just have to wait until i start ... then i'll know better what tools i'm lacking. i just ordered the craftsman 1/2" torque wrench that keisur recommended above, but as for the air tool ... i think i will wait and just try to find something less expensive than the impact wrench.
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Well, if you think about what I said for a minute, you'll realize I was saying, more than you need now, but good for the future if you plan on doing other stuff later for the 1/2" stuff. If you are on a budget which I wasn't really thinking you were seeing all you done up to now to a new 4Runner being in school, then I would just try and get by with the ratchets, better yet go to Harbor and get a cheap set of 1/2" gear. When I was in school I used the spring compressors with 1/2" manual ratchets and to guys simultaneuosly cranking, it can be done but is a pain. 3/8" is "wimpy" when you start working on drive shafts, diffs, etc. where you need a longer ratchet handle to put the torque on something to break it loose, expecially if your air wrench isn't handy.
another thing, an impact wrench for the spring compressor? that to me is a little dangerous since the impact wrench will spin up real fast. an air ratchet is slower and more easily controlled so as to not compress one side too fast and end up either tweaking the spring or worse. I would suggest starting slow with a hand ratchet to get the feel and if you feel comfortable move to the air ratchet. that isn't somehting you want to just jump on and start tightening down on with air tools without ever having gotten a feel for it. remember, you are loading a spring.
Do you even have a compressor to run the air tools?
I've never had a problem using my 1/2" torque wrench for the sparkplugs either moss.
moss is right though, this thread is getting long, just do it already, once you get your lift that is. I believe everything has been covered over the multiple threads going on right now about this lift.
another thing, an impact wrench for the spring compressor? that to me is a little dangerous since the impact wrench will spin up real fast. an air ratchet is slower and more easily controlled so as to not compress one side too fast and end up either tweaking the spring or worse. I would suggest starting slow with a hand ratchet to get the feel and if you feel comfortable move to the air ratchet. that isn't somehting you want to just jump on and start tightening down on with air tools without ever having gotten a feel for it. remember, you are loading a spring.
Do you even have a compressor to run the air tools?
I've never had a problem using my 1/2" torque wrench for the sparkplugs either moss.
moss is right though, this thread is getting long, just do it already, once you get your lift that is. I believe everything has been covered over the multiple threads going on right now about this lift.
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Originally Posted by 4route
I worry that it will be useless in small spaces (vertically, I mean)..
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I might be a girl and I might not know everything there is to know about trucks and tools, but I'm making an effort to learn here, and obviously with the work I have done on my 4runner thus far, I know what a ratchet is. Thanks for the condescension though!
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Originally Posted by 4route
mossback -- problem with buying more tools right now is that i don't have that much money to throw around because i go to school and also saved up for the lift kit -- not intending to pay a bunch extra for tools. i was hoping to use the 3/8 for this lift project until i could afford 1/2" ... do you think i need 1/2" for the lift installation? if so, i guess i'll get them, i just had been hoping not to.
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Originally Posted by keisur
moss is right though, this thread is getting long, just do it already, once you get your lift that is. I believe everything has been covered over the multiple threads going on right now about this lift.
ANyhow getting late, need beer more beer beer.......
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4route,
man, talk about flying off the handle...
anyway, I'm not annoyed, it's just like you said above, "get started and figure out what tools you need if you find you need something you don't already have (paraphrased of course)."
No matter what job you do on your car there's always going to be a snag here and there. It doesn't matter how prepped you are for the job. I can't count the number of times I thought, "oh, piece of cake." well, three day later I finally get everything back together when it should have only been a 2 hour job.
What I was trying to say, and I guess I worded it all wrong, was that you seem to have a good grasp on the issues and tools you need for the job and now you should just wait for the parts and start attacking the 4runner. And yes, I did say above "just do it already, once you get your lift that is."
sorry to offend and your questions aren't stupid. I just think you should wait for your parts, jump on it and start working and if you hit a snag then jump on the computer and hit us up for help. it never takes us long to respond right?
Come on, relax with me, breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. ok now stretch your neck out and up as far as possible, now relax your neck. ok, now we're relaxed and feeling better right?
ps, sarcasm doesn't come through on chats without real facial expressions so some things get taken wrong, by us all. it's ok though.
man, talk about flying off the handle...
anyway, I'm not annoyed, it's just like you said above, "get started and figure out what tools you need if you find you need something you don't already have (paraphrased of course)."
No matter what job you do on your car there's always going to be a snag here and there. It doesn't matter how prepped you are for the job. I can't count the number of times I thought, "oh, piece of cake." well, three day later I finally get everything back together when it should have only been a 2 hour job.
What I was trying to say, and I guess I worded it all wrong, was that you seem to have a good grasp on the issues and tools you need for the job and now you should just wait for the parts and start attacking the 4runner. And yes, I did say above "just do it already, once you get your lift that is."
sorry to offend and your questions aren't stupid. I just think you should wait for your parts, jump on it and start working and if you hit a snag then jump on the computer and hit us up for help. it never takes us long to respond right?
Come on, relax with me, breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. ok now stretch your neck out and up as far as possible, now relax your neck. ok, now we're relaxed and feeling better right?
ps, sarcasm doesn't come through on chats without real facial expressions so some things get taken wrong, by us all. it's ok though.
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Originally Posted by keisur
ps, sarcasm doesn't come through on chats without real facial expressions so some things get taken wrong, by us all. it's ok though.
Have a good night. And I think most of us are very relaxed, anyway I am
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I've never had a problem using my 1/2" torque wrench for the sparkplugs either moss.
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Originally Posted by Mossback74
my issue is my socket is 3/8" and my tourque wrench is 1/2", I cant find my adapter, Its also a bit long. Anyway, like Starsky says "Do it... Do it". I want to see this lift.
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I understand, Keisur. The tool thing was just something I had been struggling with for a long time, and kept getting conflicting answers. I brought it up again in hopes of finding some answers that made more sense, and I'm glad that I did because you were able to help me understand what I would need. I don't mean to "fly off the handle" but I was offended by the implication of your ratchet comment, and by the fact that you seemed annoyed with the thread. I thought it would be a nice way to have a lot of info put together from a bunch of us - and a good place for us to discuss questions we had in approaching this - as well as a nice thread for people who might be attempting a similar thing in the future.
I understand and agree that no matter how prepared you think you are, you are bound to hit a snag or two along the way -- but it's still better to be as prepared as possible, so you have less of a fall when you do trip up, or less snags in the process. A bunch of us are about to do this, and I figured too much info is better than not enough.
I understand and agree that no matter how prepared you think you are, you are bound to hit a snag or two along the way -- but it's still better to be as prepared as possible, so you have less of a fall when you do trip up, or less snags in the process. A bunch of us are about to do this, and I figured too much info is better than not enough.
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Originally Posted by 4route
I was offended by the implication of your ratchet comment
what I was getting at was that the torque wrenches we've been discussing are the "clicker" type as opposed to the type that just bends over and a needles estimates the torque so the clicker types are easier to use in tight spots, ie. the horizontal bolts like the drive shaft or axle nuts on the rear flange. those stupid bending types are hard to use because in tight spots you have to position the socket just right so the arm sticks out where you have room. you get the idea I know. I wasn't trying to make fun of you, just a smart reply trying to be funny, hence the sarcasm thing O talked about.
PS, you try my dr. phil relaxation exercise above? works huh?
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Hey if we keep this up we might beat the longest thread on the board
See
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f168/im-just-girl-10741/
which made no sense in the end
Or maybe the more useful ones
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/new-performance-mod-part-5130/
Anyway I hope we are done before it reaches a 1000 posts or 10000/30000 views
EDIT: I need to go to bed.
See
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f168/im-just-girl-10741/
which made no sense in the end
Or maybe the more useful ones
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/new-performance-mod-part-5130/
Anyway I hope we are done before it reaches a 1000 posts or 10000/30000 views
EDIT: I need to go to bed.
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you got a harbor freight close by? $3.99 for the complete set. if not, I'll send you mine free and I'll go buy myself a new set. let me know.
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Your A Girl
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I might be a girl and I might not know everything there is to know about trucks and tools,
Hold everything, you mean we've been chatting about lifts with a girl Insert 'SARCASAM" here. 4route we still want to see your lift so keep on posting. You'll never know how much you have helped out by doing this thread until you've finished it. Ignore the sarcasam and just keep on posting
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Originally Posted by Biff
Insert 'SARCASAM" here. 4route we still want to see your lift so keep on posting. You'll never know how much you have helped out by doing this thread until you've finished it. Ignore the sarcasam and just keep on posting
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4Route: If you're not done with your lift and other members still have questions then I say keep on posting on this thread. This has probably been the most informative thread we've had regarding XREAS spacer lifts. I'm sure it'll be helpful to many who have never done a lift before.
Just summarize it near the end when you've finished is my only recommendation.
The "Panamanian wanna-be" has a weird sense of humor as I'm sure you've found out. Ya now I'm just ˟˟˟˟˟˟ with you, you know that............right Keisur?
Seriously, Keisur has changed his 3rd Gen from a run-of-the-mill 4Runner into one serious machine. From what I remember he has pretty much done it on his own with the advice of many people on this board and a bunch of curiosity and patience.
Just keep asking away, as you know theres a million differing ideas on tools and techniques. Its up to you to sort them out and see what works best for you.
I want to see one of these three XREAS trucks lifted soon. Maybe that'll inspire the other two to get it done.
Victor, Bulldog and 4Route: Who's going to be the first is what I'd like to know!!
I'll bet K will talk his "esposa" into lifting hers by June just for the challenge of it.
Cheers,
Doug M.
Just summarize it near the end when you've finished is my only recommendation.
The "Panamanian wanna-be" has a weird sense of humor as I'm sure you've found out. Ya now I'm just ˟˟˟˟˟˟ with you, you know that............right Keisur?
Seriously, Keisur has changed his 3rd Gen from a run-of-the-mill 4Runner into one serious machine. From what I remember he has pretty much done it on his own with the advice of many people on this board and a bunch of curiosity and patience.
Just keep asking away, as you know theres a million differing ideas on tools and techniques. Its up to you to sort them out and see what works best for you.
I want to see one of these three XREAS trucks lifted soon. Maybe that'll inspire the other two to get it done.
Victor, Bulldog and 4Route: Who's going to be the first is what I'd like to know!!
I'll bet K will talk his "esposa" into lifting hers by June just for the challenge of it.
Cheers,
Doug M.
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Originally Posted by 02Runner
The "Panamanian wanna-be" has a weird sense of humor as I'm sure you've found out. Ya now I'm just ˟˟˟˟˟˟ with you, you know that............right Keisur? I'll bet K will talk his "esposa" into lifting hers by June just for the challenge of it.
Cheers,
Doug M.
Cheers,
Doug M.
Seriously, Keisur has changed his 3rd Gen from a run-of-the-mill 4Runner into one serious machine. From what I remember he has pretty much done it on his own with the advice of many people on this board and a bunch of curiosity and patience.
yea, I know your messing with me. We're going to Panama for 2 weeks this year I think, you game?
Originally Posted by 02Runner
I'll bet K will talk his "esposa" into lifting hers by June just for the challenge of it.
Doug M.
Doug M.
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