I lost 3rd gear in my truck so i got a new (used) transmission from another member on yotatech and was told it was a w56c which is what i need. i dropped my transmssion and pulled of the t-case and noticed that the original trans(1st pic) didnt look the same as the new (2nd pic) trans. the transfer case will line up and bolt down to the new one but i was wondering if there is any difference between those transmisions? Will the new one work with the transfer case? I need to get this fixed ASAP because i have to have it done by monday morning to gt to school. Thanks in advance.

 

Obviously that is not the same tranny. Hard to tell by those pics.
Marlin has a tranny tech page on his website that shows the different models.

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could you post a link to that page on marlin's site? i tried looking for it but didn't see anything that would help. Basically what i want to know is if the transfer case that came of mine will bolt up to the new one so that i can get it back on the road. I think maybe the one i got is a w56-d instead of a w56-c. i couldn't find anything telling a difference. The bolt holes line up on the transfer case and it appears that both transmissions are sealed of from the transfer case, so that they aren't sharing fluid. I guess if i could make it work id have to put more gear oil in than the old one because it has a larger space in the new transmission. If anyone has had this issue or just knows more about it than me could please give me some advice. Thanks

 

Terrible pictures. The c,d,e all use forward shift transfer case's. a,b use top shift cases.


http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...built-complete
http://www.marlincrawler.com/tech/tr...ar-ratio-chart

 

Hi my name is Pete and I'm the YT member that sold Justin the 4cyl trans and hope to help correct the issues you are experiencing A.S.A.P. to help you get-er back on the road quickly. So by process of elimination... Let's get started... If the truck that is in your avatar photo is in fact the truck in question... I'm assuming it is a 1989 to a 1995 pickup leaning more toward the eariler years (from grill identification only) and is most likely a 22RE truck. and for obvious reasons, it has 4 wheel drive... This would dictate that it would have to have been originally assembled with a W-56C,D,or E transmission, year dependant, as to which letter suffix was originally installed. And from what you and I had discussed, via PM, we came to the conclusion that it was infact a forward shift and that you had a pretty good idea it was a W-56C in your truck. Just a quick question was that according to the door jam tag??

Now, judging by the looks of the rear of your original transmission and going by marlin's web site it looks like your original trans maybe a "G" series.

Your original transmission tail stock photo


Here is a photo of the rear of a G52 (1984-86 22RE 21 spline Forward shift Open input bearing) trans. Photo taken from Marlin's site found here
http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...t-complete/g52



Also, here is a photo of the rear of a G54 (1986-88 22RE 21 spline Forward shift sealed input bearing) trans. Photo taken from Marlin's site found here
http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...t-complete/g54




Again, here are photos from Marlin's site, but of the rear of a W-56B,C,D (couldn't see an A trans on the website for some reason, issue with Marlins site I think, but that is neither here nor there since we know that is top shift trans and that is not what you're dealing with B's are the same way) (no picture of the E transmission tail stock on the web site either so we can't rule that out) transmission and since we know that the new trans is a forward shift trans then we know it has to be either a C a D or an E transmission. Here are photos of both C & D.

W-56C (1989-1991)


W-56D(1992)


Since all the Toyota transmissions for the 22R(E) have the same bell housing bolt pattern and the same overall length of 25.5" long and accept all 21 spline input shaft gear driven transfer cases (with exception of the Turbo trucks that have the 23 spline output/input, but that's a R151F and is a completely different animal) that any of the transmissions, G or W series, would work in your truck as long as they had the correct forward or top shift transfer case mated to the correct forward or top shift transmission.

With this all being said, could your truck have had a transmission issue once upon a time and the PO installed a transmission from an earlier truck before you became the owner?

Is it possible that the PO didn't know what model transmission they or had someone in stalled if the original transmission had an issue?

Let me know what your thoughts are?

Thanks,

 

the door tag says w56, although the picture you posted of the "G" series trans looks exactly like mine. My truck is an 89 , but i guess the PO could have switched it over. The trans i received from you will bolt up to the transfer case but the problem i am having now is that the rear of the engine block has a pin that is supposed to slide into a hole in the bell housing of the trans to line it up, but the trans also has a pin in that spot so they wont match up. I'm beginning to think that the PO also switched the engine at one time. I guess that's the problem with buying a truck from someone, you never know what they've done with it. I will be able to make the trans work, and thank you for your help in resolving that problem. I'll keep you updated on the process.

 

Justin,

That pin in either the engine side or the bell housing side should come out. They can be a PITA to get out, but lots of WD-40 or another prefered penatrant, a little patience and a good pair of pliers and you should be able to get them out. A touch of heat may also help a little, keep in mind though the bell housing is aluminum... You'll have to leave at least one present on either the engine or the trans side of things so you have proper alignment. Also check the oposite side of the bell or engine I believe there should be two pins total. One on the left and one on the right. I'm not as familiar with the 4cyl trans as I am with the V6 trans, but mechanically speaking there should be two for proper alignment of those mating surfaces... Good luck, let me know if you need anymore help. Don't be affraid to call or text me, you have my number.

Thanks,